Sep 17, 2007 - 6:00 PM
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When I go to start my car, particularly in the morning after it's been sitting all night, the engine feels like it's kind of "chugging" or "hicupping" until it's warmed up. I noticed this right when I bought the car, about 6 weeks ago, and that the temperature gauge was taking forever to go up into the "warm" position.
So naturally, my thermostat must be sticking, right? Well I replaced the thermostat last weekend, and while the car warms up at a normal rate now, it still does this weird "chugging" thing from the time that it begins to warm up until it's about 2/3 of the way to temp. I did notice that the day after I replaced the thermostat, the car didn't do this. I also noticed that there was a slight leak from where the upper radiator hose goes into the engine block (my fault - I took the wrong thing off in search for the thermostat housing, and didn't use enough sealant when I put the mounting back on). So when I fixed the gasket seal and put everything back together, it resumed it's chugging thing. Could this be because of air in the line? I'd think it would overheat if there were air though. Bad coolant? It's almost as if there's a vacuum leak, but I can't find one anywhere, and it just seems directly related to the cooling system since the duration that the car does this has also decreased with the proper warm up time in place now. Any ideas? Thanks! -------------------- ![]() |
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Sep 25, 2007 - 3:43 PM
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If you want to eliminate the coolant temp sensor as a suspected problem you can do this:
-engine cold - note aprox outside temperature -grab a multimeter and set it on 20k ohm range -disconnect the CTS plug -measure resistance between the two pins on the sensor, take note -plug it back in and start the engine, let it warm up until gauge is at 1/2 -turn it off, unplug the CTS and measure the resistance. note this is the table of a working sensor -20*C -4*F = 10K-20K ohms 0*C 32*F = 4K-7K ohms 20*C 68*F = 2K-3K ohms 40*C 104*F = 0.9K-1.3K ohms 60*C 140*F = 0.4K-0.7K ohms 80*C 176*F = 0.2K-0.4K ohms (typical running temp) ideally you'd want to check these readings at the back of the ECU, but it involves getting to it, which is harder than at the sensor. Doing this would give you the actual reading that the ECU sees, if there was any problems with the harness or connections it would show up here. Hope this helps Good luck -------------------- ----------------------6GC's FIRST V6----------------------
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GriffGirl 7AFE Runs rough when cold Sep 17, 2007 - 6:00 PM
95CelicaST is the chugging like sputtering? Like its running ... Sep 17, 2007 - 7:08 PM
Bitter i had this problem, i dont know if i ever fixed it... Sep 17, 2007 - 8:45 PM
CelicaST_CALI ya id bring it to a garage and leave it overnight ... Sep 17, 2007 - 9:56 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Sep 17, 2007 - 7... Sep 18, 2007 - 1:50 PM
Bitter i had the same symptoms as well, felt really rough... Sep 18, 2007 - 11:54 PM
Harold_Fastwaker Are there any codes thrown?
Sounds like a star... Sep 19, 2007 - 1:42 AM
K-ESD Check your coolant sensor, if it isn't working... Sep 19, 2007 - 7:24 PM
daphreakda QUOTE(K-ESD @ Sep 20, 2007 - 12... Sep 19, 2007 - 10:06 PM

GriffGirl QUOTE(daphreakda @ Sep 19, 2007 - 8... Sep 24, 2007 - 12:49 PM
Bitter QUOTE(K-ESD @ Sep 19, 2007 - 7... Sep 24, 2007 - 9:28 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE(Bitter @ Sep 24, 2007 - 7:28 P... Sep 25, 2007 - 12:21 PM
GriffGirl Don't know exactly when the radiator was flush... Sep 21, 2007 - 4:08 PM
K-ESD Look on the side of the head, around the coolant o... Sep 24, 2007 - 3:19 PM
GriffGirl Sweet moses (sayeth the nice jewish girl)! Tha... Sep 24, 2007 - 3:28 PM
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GriffGirl This is a great start for me, thank you. I will fo... Sep 25, 2007 - 4:09 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE(K-ESD @ Sep 25, 2007 - 1... Oct 3, 2007 - 3:51 PM
GriffGirl Replaced the coolant temperature sensor on Friday,... Oct 22, 2007 - 1:28 PM
Bitter you dont have one of those sensors. Oct 22, 2007 - 8:02 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE(Bitter @ Oct 22, 2007 - 6:02 P... Oct 23, 2007 - 10:09 AM
Bitter i havent had the cold start problems again yet thi... Oct 23, 2007 - 11:42 PM
GriffGirl This morning I put Seafoam into the gas tank and s... Oct 24, 2007 - 9:45 AM
Bitter deep creep is just seafoam in a spray can, makes i... Oct 24, 2007 - 9:23 PM
Bitter well its back for me as well. only seems to happen... Nov 1, 2007 - 8:26 PM
GriffGirl QUOTE(Bitter @ Nov 1, 2007 - 5:26 PM... Nov 8, 2007 - 5:21 PM
Bitter i havent had the time to get back into it more, im... Nov 8, 2007 - 8:45 PM
wind any updates? im having the exact same problem and ... Jan 23, 2008 - 8:51 PM
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