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post Sep 13, 2003 - 11:29 PM
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I used to be abel to keep up with my friend when he has his plain civic EX, but he's doing a type R swap (JDM) so he'll be skooting along nicely.. So I was just wondering how well the 5SFE can keep up with a B16B?? and no I'm not some idiot street racer, I'm a 22yo university student who wants to bug the **** out of his friend because he owns a torqueless car HAHAHAH! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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post Sep 17, 2003 - 5:57 PM
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QUOTE (Junior @ Sep 17, 2003 - 2:53 PM)
First, a type R (JDM) is a B18C.  Second, it'll eat you alive. 210 horses I believe plus great top end pull.  This combined with it LSD pull kill a 5sfe.  The beams 3sge is a different story.  Black TopI'm almost cetain will beat the type R. Red Top will probably beat it, if not atleast run neck and neck.

b18c5 is the Integra type-r motor...not the Civic type-R. The civic type-R, I believe is the b16b1 or something like that... then again...it's not clear which type-R motor is being swapped...=/

Here's the engine codes:

B16A (JDM Civic SiR, USDM 99+ Civic Si) 160hp 8k redline
B16B (JDM Civic Type-R) 170hp 9k redline
B18C1 (USDM 94+ Integra GSR) 165-170hp 8k redline
B18C5 (JDM/USDM Integra Type-R) 175-180hp 9k redline

Or something in that neighborhood...

Now to compare...

Beams Redtop
200hp (supposedly...closer to 190-197) 7600 or 7800 redline (I forget)
Beams Blacktop (RWD Altezzas only)
210hp (dual VVT-i) not sure about the redline... probably same as redtop

The yota motors definately make more power and most definately make more torque, 150-160 ftlbs (in useable range 3-4K rpm) compared to 110-117 ftlbs (in unuseable range 6800 rpm)...however, I'll still bet the honda's will give the Beams motors a run for their money just because the gearing on the hondas are typically so much better.

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