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post Mar 9, 2007 - 10:43 PM
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on my celica i have a few mods and my cuisn tweaked with the timming a little bit and if u know what im talking bout the timming was set at 16 and it used to be at 5 and i noticed it gave it a lil more power and it kinda sounds a lil like its "caming". but it drives better and i have not noticed any problems at all..
what do u guys think about this i would like ur info......


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post Oct 13, 2007 - 10:19 AM
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The air fuel ratio takes time to burn. if you light the spark plug at 10 degrees BTDC then by the time the mixture has finished burning you are probably around 20-ish degrees ATDC, this is your peak pressure and it actually pushes the piston on it's way down to help spin the crank which helps lift the other pistons up on their strokes and it just happens over and over. now, if you light that spark a little earlier and you can make peak pressure a few degrees earlier it helps push the piston down faster thus creating more power. You run into problems when you advance too far so that you reach peak pressure at 0 degrees or even BTDC so while the piston is still on it's way up, the explosion pushes it down and the piston has to fight against that extreme force. this is detonation and will kill an engine pretty quick.

But, a gasoline's octane number tells us it's ability to resist detonation so the higher the octane, the less chance of detonation which is why it's safer to use a higher octane when advancing the timing.


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Posts in this topic
- jdmart   hey read!!   Mar 9, 2007 - 10:43 PM
- - Batman722   since you advanced the timing make sure you run at...   Mar 9, 2007 - 11:39 PM
- - 6gcSTVT   How do you advance the timing on your own? I never...   Mar 10, 2007 - 10:04 AM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(6gcSTVT @ Mar 10, 2007 - 3:04 ...   Mar 10, 2007 - 11:33 AM
- - Batman722   the 96+ distributors cannot be adjusted to advance...   Mar 10, 2007 - 11:22 AM
|- - IllIllIll   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Mar 10, 2007 - 4:2...   Mar 11, 2007 - 3:28 PM
- - j0e_p3t   how about on my 95 st?   Mar 10, 2007 - 11:30 AM
- - freakyre33c   there is a marking on the timing gear and the bloc...   Mar 10, 2007 - 8:55 PM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(freakyre33c @ Mar 10, 2007 - 9...   Mar 11, 2007 - 4:46 PM
- - 6gcSTVT   So by changing when the valve timing it won't ...   Mar 10, 2007 - 11:01 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(6gcSTVT @ Mar 10, 2007 - 11:01...   Mar 10, 2007 - 11:17 PM
- - 6gcSTVT   so why isn't this a first mod to be done with ...   Mar 11, 2007 - 7:08 PM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(6gcSTVT @ Mar 11, 2007 - 8:08 ...   Mar 11, 2007 - 9:07 PM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(Rayme @ Mar 12, 2007 - 2:07 AM...   Mar 12, 2007 - 4:40 PM
- - Bitter   if your doing advanced timing please atleast use 8...   Mar 12, 2007 - 8:55 PM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 13, 2007 - 1:55 A...   Mar 12, 2007 - 9:16 PM
- - Jen   well, this is news to me. fascinating.   Mar 12, 2007 - 9:51 PM
- - Negative   You can do it on a 96+ but a few minutes later the...   Mar 13, 2007 - 7:09 AM
- - 6strngs   you say it used to be at 5 degrees? oem specs say...   Mar 15, 2007 - 1:26 AM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(6strngs @ Mar 15, 2007 - 6:26 ...   Mar 15, 2007 - 5:43 PM
- - praetor   so the ecu on the 96+ will override it? i was alw...   Mar 19, 2007 - 10:52 PM
- - tonytutino   here's a how-to for you kids, i got mine worki...   Mar 20, 2007 - 12:08 AM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(tonytutino @ Mar 20, 2007 - 5...   Apr 18, 2007 - 4:33 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(jdmart @ Apr 18, 2007 - 2:33 P...   Apr 18, 2007 - 9:54 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE(jdmart @ Apr 18, 2007 - 9:33 P...   Apr 19, 2007 - 12:19 PM
- - Bitter   you have to set BASE timing, jumping those connect...   Apr 19, 2007 - 1:02 PM
|- - jdmart   QUOTE(Bitter @ Apr 19, 2007 - 6:02 P...   Apr 19, 2007 - 6:08 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(jdmart @ Apr 19, 2007 - 4:08 P...   Apr 19, 2007 - 9:35 PM
|- - kgrande   Anyone tried running on ethanol blend + advancing ...   Apr 20, 2007 - 12:25 AM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(kgrande @ Apr 20, 2007 - 12:25...   Apr 20, 2007 - 1:10 AM
- - jdmart   ok i finnaly think i got it right thnx for the hel...   Apr 21, 2007 - 5:53 PM
- - mandrek   bringing this one back from the dead.. ive done th...   Oct 7, 2007 - 12:40 PM
- - mandrek   OH yeah, and forgot to state.. i have a 95 st auto...   Oct 7, 2007 - 9:07 PM
- - mandrek   no one have any help or info for me??   Oct 8, 2007 - 10:51 PM
- - TRD_GT   Here in London all the tuners run their cars on Sh...   Oct 8, 2007 - 11:45 PM
- - mandrek   sweet that would be nice..... but still curiouse...   Oct 13, 2007 - 12:39 AM
- - 6strngs   I had run 18 degrees on 91 octane with no problems...   Oct 13, 2007 - 1:28 AM
- - mandrek   thnx 6strings ill give it a try as soon as i get ...   Oct 13, 2007 - 3:25 AM
- - FortuneCookie   To be honest, in my opinion, advancing the ignitio...   Oct 13, 2007 - 4:34 AM
|- - mandrek   QUOTE(FortuneCookie @ Oct 13, 2007 - 5...   Oct 13, 2007 - 6:04 AM
- - 6strngs   The air fuel ratio takes time to burn. if you ligh...   Oct 13, 2007 - 10:19 AM
- - FortuneCookie   Ok dudes... After 3 months of driving with advance...   Jan 9, 2008 - 2:51 PM
- - GriffGirl   Something is seriously wrong with your car if you...   Jan 9, 2008 - 5:24 PM
- - 808celica   WTF!!!!!!! i checked m...   Jan 9, 2008 - 5:38 PM
- - FortuneCookie   Lol. Well GriffGirl, 60+ miles everyday, 95% of it...   Jan 10, 2008 - 12:43 AM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE(FortuneCookie @ Jan 9, 2008 - 7...   Jan 13, 2008 - 7:04 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(808celica @ Jan 13, 2008 - 4:0...   Jan 14, 2008 - 12:07 AM
- - 6strngs   what's the price difference between 87 and 93?...   Jan 10, 2008 - 12:59 AM
- - FortuneCookie   Well I'm not one of those people who are welli...   Jan 10, 2008 - 11:55 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(FortuneCookie @ Jan 10, 2008 - 8...   Jan 10, 2008 - 6:01 PM
|- - FortuneCookie   QUOTE(6strngs @ Jan 10, 2008 - 6:01 ...   Jan 11, 2008 - 12:22 AM
- - Bitter   i've been watching knock numbers on my safc2 w...   Jan 10, 2008 - 11:04 PM
- - 6strngs   I'm taking college classes with a major in aut...   Jan 11, 2008 - 2:54 AM
|- - Rayme   octane rating is a rating for the self-ignition pr...   Jan 20, 2008 - 10:34 AM
- - FortuneCookie   Regardless of all the classes you take and notes y...   Jan 11, 2008 - 3:02 AM
- - Bitter   if you're timing is retarded or is being retar...   Jan 11, 2008 - 7:57 PM
- - n1ckz0r   I loled at this thread becuase of the confusion an...   Jan 19, 2008 - 12:09 AM


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