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post Oct 16, 2007 - 4:47 PM
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OK, been chasing a misfire for quite some time. The car runs great first thing in the AM but misfires once normal operating temp is reached. Misfires at idle and while driving. First, I have replaced all fuel and ignition components and all vacuum lines. I decarbonized the combustion chamber (MOPAR CC Cleaner, good stuff!). I have replaced the MAP sensor, O2 sensor, and some various wires that looked corroded. Stock 5s-fe.

The engine bay seems to be getting extremley hot! (but not overheating). Yesterday I pulled the plugs to see if they show any evident signs of wear and I was confused by what I saw. The firing end looked great (brown to grayish color), however the insulator on top of the plug was brown and blistered (burnt)?! Anyone ever see this? They are NGK plugs with the factory heat range. Also (not sure if this has to do with the misfire) but every now and then I hear a pop come from my gas tank. Is the "pop" just releasing pressure from the tank? Is it supposed to do that? Sorry so long, I am just truly stumped!!

List of parts replaced:
Fuel Pump, Filter, Pressure Reg, Charcoal Canister, EGR Valve, and injectors
Brand new distributor, wires, plugs, igniter, O2 sensor, MAP sensor, and even the ECU!

Could this be a bad cat causing the heat? Cracked head? Thanks for input...

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post Oct 24, 2007 - 12:05 PM
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i am starting to think my problem is mechanical (valve, piston, head, etc)



i dont think thats it.
the problem you guys have sounds like something small and easy to fix.

like i said, get a video. its hard to diagnose car problems over the internet.


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ok alt tested out a little low but ok (13 .1 volts)


thats too low. you should be getting about 14v.
you need to remove your battery and alt from your car, and have them BOTH bench tested.


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- cv7713   Misfire when hot, replaced everything I could think of...   Oct 16, 2007 - 4:47 PM
- - cv7713   any suggestions?   Oct 16, 2007 - 7:52 PM
- - Blakout16   check your coolant thermister, see if its not open...   Oct 16, 2007 - 8:12 PM
- - cv7713   thanks for the reply. no CEL. tried 87, 89, and ...   Oct 16, 2007 - 8:41 PM
- - Bitter   could be a lean issue, sticking or dirty injectors...   Oct 16, 2007 - 10:07 PM
- - 95CelicaST   or buy new injectors.   Oct 17, 2007 - 12:00 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   you replaced everything that i would suspect to be...   Oct 17, 2007 - 7:12 AM
- - cv7713   ok, compression checks ok. 190 +/- on all cylinde...   Oct 17, 2007 - 6:28 PM
- - 95CelicaST   headers would make the engine bay warmer... unless...   Oct 17, 2007 - 7:32 PM
- - supradog1   THANK GOD!!! SOMEONE IS HAVING THE SAM...   Oct 21, 2007 - 11:44 AM
- - lagos   can you describe "missfire" in more deta...   Oct 21, 2007 - 11:51 AM
|- - supradog1   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 21, 2007 - 12:51 P...   Oct 21, 2007 - 1:24 PM
- - cv7713   Misfires at idle, when accelerating, and when driv...   Oct 21, 2007 - 1:28 PM
- - supradog1   i puled my distibutor cap off and every thing look...   Oct 21, 2007 - 2:04 PM
- - cv7713   dizzy is the distributor. the black thing inside ...   Oct 21, 2007 - 2:28 PM
- - supradog1   is the timing off??? if i ajust the timing a littl...   Oct 21, 2007 - 2:29 PM
- - cv7713   i've tried adjusting the timing. if you want,...   Oct 21, 2007 - 2:35 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(cv7713 @ Oct 21, 2007 - 3:35 P...   Oct 21, 2007 - 6:09 PM
- - cv7713   that's what I did, bridged TE1 and E1 and set ...   Oct 21, 2007 - 9:21 PM
- - supradog1   i think i know what the problem is!!!...   Oct 21, 2007 - 11:14 PM
- - supradog1   ok alt tested out a little low but ok (13 .1 volts...   Oct 23, 2007 - 2:26 AM
- - LewFX   o2 sensor? did you clean your aic?   Oct 23, 2007 - 7:15 AM
- - cv7713   in tank fuel filter is posisble. mine was never c...   Oct 23, 2007 - 7:51 AM
- - supradog1   my car has about 200K on it and is a 5s auto... i ...   Oct 23, 2007 - 9:03 AM
- - cv7713   mine has 150k but I think the owners before me ran...   Oct 23, 2007 - 9:29 AM
- - supradog1   no not at this time i will by fri cause this has g...   Oct 23, 2007 - 9:39 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEi am starting to think my problem is mechanic...   Oct 24, 2007 - 12:05 PM
- - cv7713   ok, here's a couple of vids... tonight it onl...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:26 PM
- - supradog1   my misfire is identical to that!!!...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:36 PM
- - cv7713   QUOTE(supradog1 @ Oct 24, 2007 - 8:3...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:39 PM
- - lagos   really hard to tell from that vid, but to me, it s...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:41 PM
- - cv7713   thanks for all your suggestions lagos... I am put...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:45 PM
- - lagos   yeah thats your problem then. it sounds like eith...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:48 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 24, 2007 - 6:48 PM...   Oct 25, 2007 - 2:51 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Oct 25, 2007 - 2:5...   Oct 25, 2007 - 9:06 PM
- - cv7713   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 24, 2007 - 8:48 PM...   Oct 24, 2007 - 8:59 PM
- - roelamizzle   Sounds like something with your battery connection...   Nov 1, 2007 - 11:16 AM
- - cv7713   OK, I think I finally figured it out!!...   Nov 6, 2007 - 8:07 AM
- - roelamizzle   sweet!   Nov 6, 2007 - 8:33 AM
- - supradog1   i havent had time to realy mess with it but i hope...   Nov 7, 2007 - 10:55 PM
- - cv7713   The aftermarket seals were $24 for all four b...   Nov 8, 2007 - 7:51 AM
- - cv7713   didn't work... completely out of ideas.....   Nov 8, 2007 - 5:28 PM
|- - supradog1   QUOTE(cv7713 @ Nov 8, 2007 - 6:28 PM...   Nov 9, 2007 - 12:36 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(cv7713 @ Nov 8, 2007 - 5:28 PM...   Nov 9, 2007 - 12:58 AM
- - cv7713   QUOTE(supradog1 @ Nov 9, 2007 - 12:3...   Nov 9, 2007 - 9:54 AM
- - cv7713   OK, let's think about this... the car misfire...   Nov 9, 2007 - 10:39 AM
- - Rayme   Are the spark plug gapped to spec? I see nobody me...   Nov 9, 2007 - 11:21 AM
- - cv7713   Yes on the plugs (.44 if I recall correctly). Th...   Nov 9, 2007 - 11:32 AM
- - Enrique   This was happing to me the last couple of days.......   Nov 9, 2007 - 2:54 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEa vacuum test was done and checked ok. I thin...   Nov 9, 2007 - 3:12 PM
- - cv7713   OK, no vac leak or exhaust leak. Got the headers ...   Nov 15, 2007 - 2:28 PM
- - cv7713   what about a bad ground? it's definately heat...   Nov 15, 2007 - 4:18 PM
- - supra12big   omg i have the same prob, when my car is not hot i...   Nov 15, 2007 - 10:01 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEOK, no vac leak or exhaust leak. how did y...   Nov 15, 2007 - 11:09 PM
- - roelamizzle   Have you tried getting a shop to run a diagnostic ...   Nov 16, 2007 - 3:45 AM
- - GriffGirl   I had this problem only when my car was cold; try ...   Nov 16, 2007 - 12:21 PM
- - supradog1   i know what the problem is!!! low comp...   Dec 3, 2007 - 2:44 PM
- - Guillermo   I have a ST202 with 3S-FE engine and I had the sam...   Dec 4, 2011 - 10:36 AM
- - RocketScott   Have you changed your thermostat and/or water pump...   Dec 4, 2011 - 7:06 PM
|- - Guillermo   QUOTE (RocketScott @ Dec 4, 2011 - 7...   Dec 7, 2011 - 5:54 AM
- - stephen_lee   old thread, but a weak coil will cause this   Dec 4, 2011 - 10:16 PM


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