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post Sep 23, 2003 - 8:19 PM
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Eh...this sucks, got the 3SGTE and since it won't pass smog and it seemed we were going to have some complications in putting it in, I decided to give it up and just put the Burrien turbo onto the 5SFE.

I think I would need metal head gasket, FMIC, Forged Pistons, and camshafts for going high hp?

Where can I get the cam shafts and forged pistons. Is webcams cam shaft good for the turbo kit I want?

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post Sep 24, 2003 - 4:50 AM
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QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Sep 23, 2003 - 11:35 PM)
I was told that it was illegal to swap engines? 

As I also said, I am selling the shop, so if by any chance I need to smog again, I might have a hard time.

Or maybe I should register the car in nevada and maybe get an apartment there ....hmmm...hehehe

If I do the 3SGTE swap is it reliable?  Because both my dad's mechanic were against it, except the one who was going to do it was going to do it for sure, but he is really inexperienced and wanted directions....

So if I can get an exact HOW TO DO then the green light is flashing.....

Technically, it's not illegal to swap engines. However, what makes it illegal is if you swap in an engine that isn't smog legal. The primary reason why a JDM motor isn't smog legal is because it doesn't contain certain (legally required) equipment (i.e. the EGR system).

However, you can still install the motor, and you will still pass the sniffer test. But before you can take the sniffer test, you will need to pass the visual (if you don't have the hook ups)...

So here's my advice to you... just follow the 'ol adage, "what they don't know won't hurt them." Just make sure you have a shop (once your pop sells his) that can smog your car and will pass it... *cough* hook ups *cough*...

As for reliability, this motor is just as reliable as any other car on the streets. It just boils down to how well you maintain the motor. Now as long as you don't have a 3rd gen 3S-GTE motor, then you should be alright with maintenance and parts. If you DO have a 3rd gen, be prepared to wait long hours, days, weeks, and months for parts to come in from Japan... *cough* water pump *cough* *cough* timing belt *cough* *cough* etc...

As for a How-to... good luck... you may be able to find minimal information on this on the Web... but since everyone's swap will vary, you may or may not find something that'll suit your needs. One person who did a decent job in documenting his progress is Mike (Qatar) and his website can be found on http://www.topshelfracing.com

I would recommend that you do some searching, since this topic has been discussed MANY MANY times here, on Celica.net, on ToyotaCelicaWeb.com, ToyotaCelicaOnline.com, Alltrac.net, etc...

Now if you come back to me saying that you searched and couldn't find anything... I suggest you give up on this project... why? Because like I said, it's been discussed many times and there are people who have provided lots of useful info and how-to's for certain aspects of this swap... all you have to do is take some time and start diggin...

GL

-Ray

This post has been edited by kuya1284: Sep 24, 2003 - 4:55 AM

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- Jabberwock   Can't put the 3SGTE   Sep 23, 2003 - 8:19 PM
- - blkGT   man that sucks. i guess ur dream has been shattere...   Sep 23, 2003 - 8:52 PM
- - DoodieHead   we dont get smog tests in our area, they test the ...   Sep 23, 2003 - 9:26 PM
- - 1bwilson   why would you spend 2500 on a kit when you have a ...   Sep 23, 2003 - 10:10 PM
- - Matthew   thats a good idea bryan its what i was gonna say ...   Sep 23, 2003 - 10:17 PM
- - 1bwilson   QUOTE (GT2GT4 @ Sep 23, 2003 - 8:17 PM) I LOVE IO...   Sep 23, 2003 - 10:36 PM
- - TCsteve   Hey man i dont know if this is true but my friend ...   Sep 23, 2003 - 11:05 PM
- - Jabberwock   Thats a good Idea I could use the 3SGTE as parts, ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 12:10 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Sep 23, 2003 - 10:10 PM) Thats...   Sep 24, 2003 - 12:25 AM
- - snadman   I wouldn't boost past 7psi without the upgrade...   Sep 24, 2003 - 12:26 AM
- - Jabberwock   so without anything (intercooler, cam, pistons, et...   Sep 24, 2003 - 12:52 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Sep 23, 2003 - 10:10 PM) Thats...   Sep 24, 2003 - 1:26 AM
- - Jabberwock   I was told that it was illegal to swap engines? ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 1:35 AM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Sep 23, 2003 - 11:35 PM) ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 4:50 AM
- - sphinx   i know for a fact that my JDM 3sgte isn't lega...   Sep 24, 2003 - 12:17 PM
- - Rivo   You also seem to be forgetting that if you do thro...   Sep 24, 2003 - 1:07 PM
- - Jabberwock   REally? IT won't pass smog visually? or the sn...   Sep 24, 2003 - 1:36 PM
- - sphinx   Jabberwock. There is a way for you to have your c...   Sep 24, 2003 - 2:01 PM
- - Rivo   That's correct sphinx. You don't have to G...   Sep 24, 2003 - 2:08 PM
- - Jabberwock   Yes I know that, I said that before, and its calle...   Sep 24, 2003 - 6:07 PM
- - Jabberwock   YES!!! I got the engine...hehe but I ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 6:21 PM
- - Rivo   really close? They're in Sacramento....also, a...   Sep 24, 2003 - 6:25 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Rivo @ Sep 24, 2003 - 4:25 PM) really close...   Sep 24, 2003 - 7:24 PM
- - Rivo   He wants it to be legal, so he won't have the ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 7:57 PM
- - kuya1284   QUOTE (Rivo @ Sep 24, 2003 - 5:57 PM) He wants it ...   Sep 24, 2003 - 10:46 PM
- - Jabberwock   I am not the one that is really paranoid....it is ...   Sep 25, 2003 - 12:26 AM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Jabberwock @ Sep 24, 2003 - 10:26 PM) I am ...   Sep 25, 2003 - 12:36 AM
- - 95ST   I love CT on 95 and older cars there is no visual ...   Sep 25, 2003 - 10:30 AM


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