1.8L power?, any ideas on power |
1.8L power?, any ideas on power |
Nov 21, 2007 - 10:49 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 20, '07 From Oil City Louisiana Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i have a 1.8L and im not looking to make a swap. i want so bad to show that this little beast has power i plan a lot of do it my self modifications (worked as a machinist for a little while ) any ideas to get me started? if u look at my profile you'll see the little i all ready have.
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Nov 24, 2007 - 11:33 AM |
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meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams
i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive" cheaper, and less hassle. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 25, 2007 - 2:42 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(presure2 @ Nov 24, 2007 - 4:33 PM) [snapback]617125[/snapback] meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive" cheaper, and less hassle. I doubt 120-130whp... 120whp if you're lucky... but what then? At least with a 20V you have potential there to spin the engine for additional power, and various cam/piston options to work with. With a 7A... it's boost or nothing. BTW... prices for a 20V swap can vary depending on how much you know and who you ask. 20V motor sets can range anywhere from 500-800 dollars, calculate in what you know and what you're capable of and that's your starting point. A front clip is NOT needed for this swap because there is plenty of documentation and substitutes for various parts. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Nov 25, 2007 - 7:02 AM |
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Moderator Joined Oct 1, '02 From fall river, ma Currently Offline Reputation: 13 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Nov 25, 2007 - 3:42 AM) [snapback]617269[/snapback] QUOTE(presure2 @ Nov 24, 2007 - 4:33 PM) [snapback]617125[/snapback] meh, for that kind of cash, i would just do the normal I,E, a couple degrees of timing advance, and throw in some cams i would bet that would net you ~125-130whp, which out of a n/a 7a, wouldnt be bad at all, and would make the 7a feel much more "alive" cheaper, and less hassle. I doubt 120-130whp... 120whp if you're lucky... but what then? At least with a 20V you have potential there to spin the engine for additional power, and various cam/piston options to work with. With a 7A... it's boost or nothing. BTW... prices for a 20V swap can vary depending on how much you know and who you ask. 20V motor sets can range anywhere from 500-800 dollars, calculate in what you know and what you're capable of and that's your starting point. A front clip is NOT needed for this swap because there is plenty of documentation and substitutes for various parts. pistons/cams...then what bee...same thing as the 7a. boost. btw, i DID say..120whp..-130...LMAO the silvertop is no big deal IMO...if your gonna swap, swap in a 3s, and be done with it. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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Nov 28, 2007 - 1:06 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(presure2 @ Nov 25, 2007 - 12:02 PM) [snapback]617291[/snapback] pistons/cams...then what bee...same thing as the 7a. boost. btw, i DID say..120whp..-130...LMAO the silvertop is no big deal IMO...if your gonna swap, swap in a 3s, and be done with it. Granted in the end if you want 200+ whp you'll want to go turbo in both cases... but if you're content with say 180whp... the 4AG is the way to go IMO. QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Nov 28, 2007 - 12:33 AM) [snapback]617493[/snapback] I would swap a 16v 4a before a silvertop, the small port makes almost as much power stock, and aftermarket parts are much more available for the 16v. I'd have to argue 16V parts are cheaper... but as far as parts quantity in general... both engines have a LOT of parts available. The argument between 20V and 16V goes like this. 20V has ITBs, under bucket shims, more valve surface overall, and is newer. The 16V will at least need a full valvetrain upgrade in order to compete... so IMO, 20V is vastly superior overall. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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