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post Sep 28, 2007 - 10:36 PM
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I got the 294 grind, which is an overall preformance grind. The other grind they do (the 101) is more for non-stock internals, lower compression, ect., not really what is best for my situation.

the plan

First I need to dyno the GT for the control. Then install, re-shim the valves, new valve seals since we're in there, and then dyno again with some tuning. Then compare the results.

From what I understand (on a 5th gen 5s) this should fatten my power band pretty nice. The mr2 guys get about +20 hp to the wheels with these. Now if I can get at least that with these, it should make a big difference when I turbo...

comments are welcome.

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post Dec 1, 2007 - 11:23 PM
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ok here's the pics.

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the cams

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and my nose

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now the real info

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now my motor has 156K miles on it and my compression was low, but consistant.

here's a comparison was another 5s, 1998 51K miles on it

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and some #s info

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and the INFO

my 5s topped out at 123whp and 126ft/lbs of torque.

on the 1998 stock 5s (intake) at 4700 RPMs it doesn't make any more power, it drops hp like a rock. My 1995 156K 5s continues to make hp. I peaked out close to redline and CONTINUED TO MAKE POWER until then. So at redline (about 6000 RPMs) I had about 123hp while the stock had The stock 5s 103hp. As for torque, the 98 drops off at 4700 and mine continued hold out longer. I had 110ft/lbs of torque and the stock 98 had 92ft/lbs.

The bottom line is I didn't dyno my car before the cams were installed so I don't know exactly were I'm starting from. From the research I've done they seem to average around 105-110hp to the wheels. If my motor was in peak condition like the 98 then I have gained about 10hp to the wheels. The important thing here is my car now holds the power later in the RPM band and where any other stock 5s drops off, my car continues to make power, right to redline.

now when I turbo...

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post Dec 2, 2007 - 9:29 AM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Dec 2, 2007 - 12:23 AM) [snapback]618885[/snapback]

ok here's the pics.

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the cams

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and my nose

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now the real info

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now my motor has 156K miles on it and my compression was low, but consistant.

here's a comparison was another 5s, 1998 51K miles on it

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and some #s info

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and the INFO

my 5s topped out at 123whp and 126ft/lbs of torque.

on the 1998 stock 5s (intake) at 4700 RPMs it doesn't make any more power, it drops hp like a rock. My 1995 156K 5s continues to make hp. I peaked out close to redline and CONTINUED TO MAKE POWER until then. So at redline (about 6000 RPMs) I had about 123hp while the stock had The stock 5s 103hp. As for torque, the 98 drops off at 4700 and mine continued hold out longer. I had 110ft/lbs of torque and the stock 98 had 92ft/lbs.

The bottom line is I didn't dyno my car before the cams were installed so I don't know exactly were I'm starting from. From the research I've done they seem to average around 105-110hp to the wheels. If my motor was in peak condition like the 98 then I have gained about 10hp to the wheels. The important thing here is my car now holds the power later in the RPM band and where any other stock 5s drops off, my car continues to make power, right to redline.

now when I turbo...


dustin, heres a better view for you and the guys.
this is my run #8, when the car was fully warmed up and heated like yours was.
the red line is a stock 98 5sfe with a injen short ram intake, the blue is dustins 95 with cams.



again guys, i really cant emphisise how much of a diffrence these cams made in his powerband.
webcams did a very good job on them.
these cams are perfect for th n/a 5s. keeps 99% of the low end we love, and makes a HUGE diffrence up top, where the 5s normally falls on its face.
now that we've found at least one place that can do cams for the 5s sucsessfully, im working on getting a set from another company that can do them as well, only the ones im having done will be done with the 5sfte in mind.
if that goes well, we "may" be able to set up a group buy on them, both for n/a and turbo 5s'
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- Batman722   cams are here   Sep 28, 2007 - 10:36 PM
- - Deezz_Nuttz   very nice, keep us posted   Sep 29, 2007 - 12:57 AM
- - Rayme   Is there a link to those MR2 guy's dyno with t...   Sep 29, 2007 - 9:06 AM
- - Black2na   dustin those looks sexy has all get out nice job i...   Sep 29, 2007 - 9:15 AM
- - blckcelica95   where you get the them ,and how much? becuase i...   Sep 29, 2007 - 9:26 AM
- - jcbass7   awesome dustin, those look great, where are you go...   Sep 29, 2007 - 9:59 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   wow, this will be cool. new power band woo woo...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:20 AM
- - Defgeph   Very nice. I can't wait to see the results.   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:35 AM
- - presure2   hehe SWEEEET D cant wait to get these installed an...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:28 AM
- - alltracman78   Dustin, get some assembly lube before you put thos...   Sep 29, 2007 - 8:57 PM
- - Batman722   here's a side by side comparison with stock ca...   Oct 1, 2007 - 9:13 PM
- - lagos   mad props for being a pioneer with these.   Oct 1, 2007 - 9:20 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   less lift, more duration. sweet.   Oct 1, 2007 - 9:29 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(x_itchy_b_x @ Oct 1, 2007 - 7...   Oct 2, 2007 - 6:59 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE(6strngs @ Oct 2, 2007 - 6:59 P...   Oct 4, 2007 - 5:39 PM
- - Defgeph   Thats freaking sweet man. I can't wait to see ...   Oct 2, 2007 - 1:20 AM
- - NuclearHappineS   it looks like more lift, look at the base circle o...   Oct 4, 2007 - 4:45 PM
- - 94celicadude   wow..looks sweet! let us know if these are wor...   Oct 10, 2007 - 2:20 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   I assumed it was less lift only because I didnt re...   Oct 10, 2007 - 2:39 PM
- - bdog_v   Any updates???   Oct 17, 2007 - 5:53 PM
- - Batman722   we're installing on Nov 10-11ish. I am going t...   Oct 17, 2007 - 7:15 PM
- - Batman722   installed. After a couple of set backs with some m...   Nov 19, 2007 - 10:13 AM
- - jcbass7   Nice work T-bone! i might have to come down ...   Nov 19, 2007 - 10:19 AM
- - jdg371   Can't wait for the dyno!   Nov 19, 2007 - 10:50 AM
- - jcbass7   oh yea... pics of the install!?!? I need a...   Nov 19, 2007 - 10:54 AM
- - 6strngs   mmm, I want some on my car. I wonder if I'd br...   Nov 19, 2007 - 5:39 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Nov 19, 2007 - 6:39 ...   Nov 19, 2007 - 9:04 PM
- - lagos   cant wait for the dyno results. post up some insta...   Nov 19, 2007 - 9:54 PM
- - Bitter   hmm wonder how they play with the corolla header?   Nov 19, 2007 - 10:29 PM
- - bdog_v   Very interesting I can't wait to see the specs...   Nov 27, 2007 - 11:07 PM
- - Batman722   with a 7a, well we'll see in a few weeks as ...   Nov 27, 2007 - 11:12 PM
- - Batman722   ok here's the pics. the cams and my no...   Dec 1, 2007 - 11:23 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Dec 2, 2007 - 12:2...   Dec 2, 2007 - 9:29 AM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 2, 2007 - 6:29 ...   Dec 3, 2007 - 1:23 AM
- - Defgeph   AWESOME. Thats great stuff right there.   Dec 1, 2007 - 11:27 PM
- - lagos   VERY interesting results, Dustin! The fuel cur...   Dec 1, 2007 - 11:46 PM
- - Batman722   yea Art for that run I had no corrections until ab...   Dec 1, 2007 - 11:55 PM
- - Rusty   hmm, how much work you done on it (intake & f...   Dec 2, 2007 - 12:21 AM
- - 6strngs   how does the low end feel now though? it looks lik...   Dec 2, 2007 - 4:01 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 2, 2007 - 5:01 A...   Dec 2, 2007 - 7:29 AM
- - Hanyo   wow the power difference after 4000 rpm is impress...   Dec 2, 2007 - 6:30 AM
- - stetsonaw   very awesome... so did you send your cams off to g...   Dec 2, 2007 - 7:28 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(Rusty @ Dec 2, 2007 - 6:21 AM)...   Dec 2, 2007 - 8:12 AM
- - Rayme   thats great, not much top HP gain but you gain mor...   Dec 2, 2007 - 9:38 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Rayme @ Dec 2, 2007 - 9:38 AM)...   Dec 2, 2007 - 1:40 PM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 2, 2007 - 2:40 PM)...   Dec 2, 2007 - 9:49 PM
- - jcbass7   nice stuff dustin! notice the difference at...   Dec 2, 2007 - 8:07 PM
- - Rusty   QUOTELittle bit unfair to compare a 3S-GE to a 5S-...   Dec 3, 2007 - 12:27 AM
- - jcbass7   650 for an addition to the power curve like that, ...   Dec 3, 2007 - 9:53 AM
- - Batman722   ^^ that's a great comparison there Manny. That...   Dec 3, 2007 - 11:02 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   turn the boost up! nice gains man. thats some...   Dec 3, 2007 - 12:08 PM
- - presure2   6strings: yup, ~ 650 for the pair. in comparison, ...   Dec 3, 2007 - 12:10 PM
|- - 6strngs   QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 3, 2007 - 9:10 ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 12:32 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Dec 4, 2007 - 1:32 A...   Dec 4, 2007 - 6:18 AM
|- - yodaman87   QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 4, 2007 - 6:18 ...   Dec 17, 2007 - 12:02 AM
|- - MyFreeCamry   [/quote] ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cam...   Jan 5, 2008 - 2:54 AM
|- - 6G96GT   [/quote] ive sent my cams out to goeff at colt cam...   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:33 PM
- - jesterwr217   are there any for the 7a?   Dec 3, 2007 - 12:21 PM
- - LewFX   hurley is getting some for her 7a   Dec 3, 2007 - 12:44 PM
- - stetsonaw   presure2, you say there are some for a 3s. where ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 12:06 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(stetsonaw @ Dec 4, 2007 - 12:0...   Dec 4, 2007 - 1:04 AM
- - Rusty   what HP gain are we talking with cams in a 3S-GE? ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 1:10 AM
- - elvasoshexai   so how do these performance cams affect driveabili...   Dec 4, 2007 - 1:26 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Dec 4, 2007 - 2...   Dec 4, 2007 - 4:45 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(presure2 @ Dec 4, 2007 - 4:45 ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 11:40 PM
- - frosty   Very nice, I really wish you would have gotten a b...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:11 AM
- - 6strngs   any news on the colt cams for 5sfte's?   Mar 31, 2008 - 9:14 AM
- - bccentaur3   X2, you guys never got back to us about the cams f...   Mar 31, 2008 - 4:20 PM
- - presure2   sorry guys, i havent had the cash for them. we kn...   Apr 1, 2008 - 11:21 AM
- - 6strngs   I just looked at web cams site, they now list 7 di...   Apr 2, 2008 - 12:46 AM
- - bccentaur3   I just feel that if you don't intend on upgrad...   Apr 2, 2008 - 10:35 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Apr 2, 2008 - 11...   Apr 2, 2008 - 5:54 PM
- - bccentaur3   Hey Dustin get back to us on how the car idles.   Apr 2, 2008 - 7:26 PM
- - Batman722   QUOTE(frosty @ Dec 11, 2007 - 12:11 ...   Apr 2, 2008 - 10:54 PM
- - darthripley   QUOTE(bccentaur3 @ Apr 2, 2008 - 10...   Apr 5, 2008 - 8:20 PM
- - Euphoria   god I'd love to have this done but how could I...   Sep 10, 2008 - 5:17 AM
- - RavenAegis45   they definitely look pretty nice. but I hear alter...   Sep 11, 2008 - 12:51 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (RavenAegis45 @ Sep 11, 2008 - 6...   Sep 19, 2008 - 7:52 PM
- - CelicaGTS94   ok so what all is needed to get these cams up and ...   Sep 19, 2008 - 9:47 AM
- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (CelicaGTS94 @ Sep 19, 2008 - 3...   Sep 19, 2008 - 7:55 PM


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