"Simple" 5SFE Turbo kit? Options

[tankd0g]

Has anyone here done a turbo kit with a 5th injector instead of changing out the stock injectors and fuel pump like kits for Hondas and Hyundais use? For someone looking for a modest increase in power that wouldn't require changing axles/clutch this seems like a cheaper and easier way to go, if there's a way to splice into the fuel rail that is.

[frosty]

^^Agreed^^

So I keep hearing but I'm getting a little tired of seeing other people boost civics for less than $1000 in parts, slaping it togethr in one weekend and tuning it with Turbo Edit, then kicking my ass lol.

but how long does their motor stay intact? Most civics will already beat our cars both in stock form due to they are lighter.

I wasn't suggesting that I wanted to buy this kit, just that I've seen Civic owners take a used turbo, some misc piping and without so much as poping the valve cover on their motor, put down an extra 60 hp. where it seems for Celicas you have to spend a minimum for $2000 to do that even with used parts.

not true

I wasn't suggesting that I wanted to buy this kit, just that I've seen Civic owners take a used turbo, some misc piping and without so much as poping the valve cover on their motor, put down an extra 60 hp. where it seems for Celicas you have to spend a minimum for $2000 to do that even with used parts.

well, every turbo kit put together on a 6th gen celica (besides the burien kit) has been built reliably and been done the "right" way. cheap civic kits may provide some extra horsepower, but most cheap kits probably aren't as reliable. Civics can simply buy a pre-programmed chip for their ECU rather than needing a piggyback unit and tuning. they don't need to relocate their oil filter, they don't upgrade their map sensor (though they probably should), their IC piping doesn't need to be as long as ours (or they can get premade IC piping kits that re welded so that cuts down on the cost of couplers and clamps), some don't upgrade their fuel systems, and other things i can't think of right now.

if you really wanted to you could just get a manifold, turbo, downpipe assembly for $200-250, and just enough piping to go from the turbo to the throttlebody, the turbo coolant and oil lines, and relocate the oil filter with a cheap kit and spend maybe a total of $500 and have a working turbo kit, but it will definately blow your motor in a relatively short amount of time. if you add about $600 worth of fuel upgrades, $200 for some gauges, $500 for an intercooler and all associated piping, and then you're sitting on a reliable kit, but then you're back up around $2000 again. and that's why it costs what it does.

Parts are cheap for civics because they are so freakin common. Open any magazine and there you go, cheap parts available. Our parts are cheap as well, just not as readily availabe. There has to be some "leg-work" to get them.

You could get the parts listed by 6strngs for $500, run it at low boost (5-7psi) and gain about as much as you say civics do. But even hondas have to shell out big bucks for reliability.

What is it, CHEAP / FAST / RELIABLE pick two.
Everyone, hondas/toyotas/nissans etc. have to play by this rule.