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post Dec 4, 2007 - 9:20 PM
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I just wanted to put it out there that I really hate SUV's and the gas that they suck up. Why would a person want to buy a car that gets like 10 mpg?

over in china they have a new car thats a cross between a van and a mini cooper and it gets 60mpg. They have laws about the dimensions and about minimum gas mileage. Why are we not following their lead? And the gov't wastes all their money and our money on technology to build a hybrid SUV which really does not exist as the electricity shuts off at about 40mph. So anyone who drives major roads uses up gas anyway. Unl;ess a family have like six children you don't need a big car. God forbid that children have to share the back of a sedan. Just getting those feelings off my chest.
 
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post Dec 11, 2007 - 2:03 PM
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SUVs rolling over is SO late 80s, left over from the crappy wheel base that the first Ford Explorers got when SUVs first gained popularity. The truth of the fact is that SUVs, in terms of safety, have the same variance of safety ratings that sedans have, and are probably (without actually looking it up right now) a hell of a lot safer than our little sport coupes. They're comfortable and convenient, and we Americans love our comfort and convenience.

The truth of the matter is that it really isn't SUVs any more that are the culprit of where we are today with our dependency on foreign oil. SUVs are getting better and better mileage with each generation, I believe the average MPG for an SUV is about 21; what's the average MPG for a car? Probably about 25. There's some disparity there, but not enough to really site SUVs as the culprit of the evil OPEC and our relentless need for more more more foreign oil and supreme rule over the universe (as long as it's got something we want though, right?).

The culprit is us - we as a nation "elect" officials who are bought by big oil and corporate lobbyists looking out for their own selfish needs. The Good Ole' U.S. of A. has got the best damn government money can buy. And this is where it's gotten us.

I personally believe one part of the solution lies in alleviating our dependency on foreign oil by research and development of alternative energy sources, including for our automobiles. Why hasn't there been more done for the hydrogen fuel cell? Why is it even a QUESTION that Congress should enact legislation to require the average MPG for cars be 35? Why aren't ALL new cars hybrids? If Congress can enact a bill to switch our damn televisions over from analog to digital AND subsidize households with two $40 off vouchers for the converter boxes for the 10% left who DON'T have cable or Sattelite TV, why can't Congress require ALL motor vehicles (maybe not motorcycles) use hybrid technology? I don't give a **** about Halliburton or the likes and what they stand to lose if this were to happen!

Sorry so long winded... I just really think this particular issue is indicative of a much greater problem out there.


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post Dec 11, 2007 - 2:19 PM
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QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Dec 11, 2007 - 7:03 PM) [snapback]621769[/snapback]

SUVs rolling over is SO late 80s, left over from the crappy wheel base that the first Ford Explorers got when SUVs first gained popularity. The truth of the fact is that SUVs, in terms of safety, have the same variance of safety ratings that sedans have, and are probably (without actually looking it up right now) a hell of a lot safer than our little sport coupes. They're comfortable and convenient, and we Americans love our comfort and convenience.

The truth of the matter is that it really isn't SUVs any more that are the culprit of where we are today with our dependency on foreign oil. SUVs are getting better and better mileage with each generation, I believe the average MPG for an SUV is about 21; what's the average MPG for a car? Probably about 25. There's some disparity there, but not enough to really site SUVs as the culprit of the evil OPEC and our relentless need for more more more foreign oil and supreme rule over the universe (as long as it's got something we want though, right?).

The culprit is us - we as a nation "elect" officials who are bought by big oil and corporate lobbyists looking out for their own selfish needs. The Good Ole' U.S. of A. has got the best damn government money can buy. And this is where it's gotten us.

I personally believe one part of the solution lies in alleviating our dependency on foreign oil by research and development of alternative energy sources, including for our automobiles. Why hasn't there been more done for the hydrogen fuel cell? Why is it even a QUESTION that Congress should enact legislation to require the average MPG for cars be 35? Why aren't ALL new cars hybrids? If Congress can enact a bill to switch our damn televisions over from analog to digital AND subsidize households with two $40 off vouchers for the converter boxes for the 10% left who DON'T have cable or Sattelite TV, why can't Congress require ALL motor vehicles (maybe not motorcycles) use hybrid technology? I don't give a **** about Halliburton or the likes and what they stand to lose if this were to happen!

Sorry so long winded... I just really think this particular issue is indicative of a much greater problem out there.


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Posts in this topic
- ashes1850   I hate SUV's   Dec 4, 2007 - 9:20 PM
- - jdg371   There is an upcoming law that deals with mileage, ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 9:26 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   yes but some people need the space for other thing...   Dec 4, 2007 - 9:26 PM
- - forkee   i too dislike gargantuan vehicles, even more so th...   Dec 4, 2007 - 9:30 PM
|- - ImportChick95   QUOTE(forkee @ Dec 4, 2007 - 9:30 PM...   Dec 4, 2007 - 10:25 PM
- - AMCMoe   I had a newer Grand Cherokee that got about 15-16m...   Dec 4, 2007 - 10:17 PM
- - Rayme   It's called freedom..freedom of choice, someth...   Dec 4, 2007 - 10:30 PM
|- - ashes1850   QUOTE(Rayme @ Dec 5, 2007 - 3:30 AM)...   Dec 4, 2007 - 10:38 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 4, 2007 - 8:38...   Dec 15, 2007 - 9:22 AM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 15, 2007 - 10...   Dec 15, 2007 - 1:29 PM
- - xs94st   i hate it when some kid thinks they are sofa king ...   Dec 4, 2007 - 10:58 PM
- - thespacepanda   I agree. I used to drive a '90 suburban street...   Dec 4, 2007 - 11:05 PM
- - Supersprynt   SUVs aren't popular in Europe because the road...   Dec 4, 2007 - 11:26 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 4, 2007 - 8...   Dec 5, 2007 - 2:45 PM
- - Havok1997GT   I think we texans can agree that the number of tru...   Dec 5, 2007 - 12:33 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ Dec 4, 2007 - 9...   Dec 5, 2007 - 4:03 PM
- - nyhotmama   I have a lifted tahoe with 35" tires. It gets...   Dec 5, 2007 - 10:32 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(nyhotmama @ Dec 5, 2007 - 8:32...   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:42 AM
|- - nyhotmama   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 6, 2007 - 1...   Dec 6, 2007 - 10:29 AM
- - OOBE   This is a family-oriented website.   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:08 AM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   Why do people get SUV's? Why not? Its personal...   Dec 6, 2007 - 1:37 AM
|- - ashes1850   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 6, 2007 - 6...   Dec 6, 2007 - 8:23 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 6, 2007 - 6:23...   Dec 6, 2007 - 8:28 PM
- - forkee   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 6, 2007 - 12...   Dec 6, 2007 - 11:46 AM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE(forkee @ Dec 6, 2007 - 8:46 AM...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:14 PM
- - fastgt   why buy an audi rs4 with 12mpg or a s4 with 16mpg,...   Dec 6, 2007 - 12:02 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   You buy a 5 dollar steak and cook it right and it ...   Dec 6, 2007 - 9:15 PM
|- - ashes1850   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 7, 2007 - 2...   Dec 6, 2007 - 9:21 PM
- - forkee   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 6, 2007 - 8...   Dec 7, 2007 - 12:38 AM
- - duders   I like this thread. SUV's certainly suck. idio...   Dec 10, 2007 - 9:21 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(duders @ Dec 10, 2007 - 7:21 P...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:21 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   hey hey hey,he wasn't talking directly to your...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:28 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Dec 10, 2007 - 9...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:29 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   ya well he is not stabing at just ur mom,there is ...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:32 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Dec 10, 2007 - 9...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:38 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   ya i see your point here,but no need to blow up at...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:39 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   Are there stupid SUV drivers? Yes, but believe it ...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:50 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   yes but im sure people know people that have no le...   Dec 10, 2007 - 11:58 PM
- - fastgt   well I know many people who would rather drive a S...   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:59 AM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 11, 2007 - 11:59 ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:22 AM
- - fastgt   ^ I don't know a lot of people who drive suvs ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:55 AM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 11, 2007 - 9:55 A...   Dec 11, 2007 - 5:20 PM
- - GriffGirl   SUVs rolling over is SO late 80s, left over from t...   Dec 11, 2007 - 2:03 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Dec 11, 2007 - 7:0...   Dec 11, 2007 - 2:19 PM
- - fastgt   I know this sounds evil and all...but if congress ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 2:12 PM
- - fastgt   just out of curiosity....how did this turn into a ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 2:49 PM
- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 11, 2007 - 11:49 ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 3:48 PM
- - fastgt   Well with that mentality you might as well hate 50...   Dec 11, 2007 - 5:15 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 11, 2007 - 2:15 P...   Dec 11, 2007 - 6:13 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   Just this morning i saw a Saab 9-3 double parked a...   Dec 11, 2007 - 5:23 PM
- - fastgt   well if you buy a saab youre automatically retarde...   Dec 11, 2007 - 5:47 PM
- - fastgt   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Dec 11, 2007 - 5:1...   Dec 11, 2007 - 6:21 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 11, 2007 - 3:21 P...   Dec 11, 2007 - 8:22 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   mine gets HORRIBLE mileage...but i still dig it.   Dec 11, 2007 - 7:21 PM
- - ScoobyDooCruiser   I'm kinda with Shogunkid. If someone wants to ...   Dec 11, 2007 - 9:38 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Yes but just like people have said,its like smokin...   Dec 11, 2007 - 9:46 PM
|- - ScoobyDooCruiser   QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Dec 11, 2007 - 6...   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:02 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   i drive a toyota celica and i get 34 mpg,and i kno...   Dec 12, 2007 - 12:37 AM
- - forkee   In SUV's defense.... 1) the new 2008 ford esc...   Dec 12, 2007 - 1:34 AM
- - xs94st   QUOTE(forkee @ Dec 12, 2007 - 1:34 A...   Dec 12, 2007 - 1:55 AM
- - ashes1850   this forum was not about attacking each other. It ...   Dec 12, 2007 - 4:48 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 9:4...   Dec 12, 2007 - 5:11 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 2:4...   Dec 12, 2007 - 8:40 PM
||- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 13, 2007 - 1...   Dec 12, 2007 - 11:48 PM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 5:4...   Dec 13, 2007 - 2:43 PM
- - fastgt   QUOTE(ashes1850 @ Dec 12, 2007 - 3:4...   Dec 12, 2007 - 5:59 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   this thread is never going to die..lol   Dec 12, 2007 - 8:23 PM
- - GriffGirl   I huff kitties and eat spotted owls fallen from lo...   Dec 12, 2007 - 8:25 PM
- - forkee   RE: I hate SUV's   Dec 13, 2007 - 3:39 AM
- - fastgt   ^ Forkee wtf man???? have you been taking intchy...   Dec 13, 2007 - 1:44 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 13, 2007 - 6:44 P...   Dec 13, 2007 - 4:18 PM
- - GriffGirl   If I made 100k a year I'd still have my Celi, ...   Dec 13, 2007 - 4:31 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   I smell manure.   Dec 14, 2007 - 12:13 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 13, 2007 - 9...   Dec 14, 2007 - 2:37 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   must be coming out of ur mouth..ooo lol jp   Dec 14, 2007 - 12:54 AM
- - fastgt   You say nothing compares, to what, your celi? Wha...   Dec 14, 2007 - 11:17 AM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 14, 2007 - 4:17 P...   Dec 14, 2007 - 4:39 PM
|- - ashes1850   I love how this went from disliking suv's to a...   Dec 14, 2007 - 5:13 PM
- - duders   Shougun stfu. U have issues. I remember um Pming a...   Dec 14, 2007 - 12:28 PM
- - fastgt   QUOTE(thespacepanda @ Dec 13, 2007 - 3...   Dec 14, 2007 - 3:20 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 13, 2007 - 6:44 P...   Dec 14, 2007 - 5:57 PM
- - fastgt   [font=Arial]QUOTE(thespacepanda @ Dec 14, 200...   Dec 14, 2007 - 5:24 PM
- - jason   dang people... i make more than the said 100k a ye...   Dec 14, 2007 - 6:20 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(jason @ Dec 14, 2007 - 11:20 P...   Dec 14, 2007 - 7:32 PM
- - GriffGirl   panda, we should get married some day, I think we...   Dec 14, 2007 - 7:39 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Dec 15, 2007 - 12...   Dec 14, 2007 - 7:57 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   i hate to break it to u guys but a Celica is not a...   Dec 14, 2007 - 10:20 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 14, 2007 - 10...   Dec 14, 2007 - 10:34 PM
|- - thespacepanda   QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Dec 15, 2007 - 3...   Dec 14, 2007 - 11:03 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE(thespacepanda @ Dec 14, 2007 - 9...   Dec 15, 2007 - 9:09 AM
- - Havok1997GT   And as far as the argument goes. SUVs and Trucks,...   Dec 14, 2007 - 11:41 PM
- - thespacepanda   Actually I take it back. When I'm rich my dail...   Dec 15, 2007 - 12:00 AM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(thespacepanda @ Dec 15, 2007 - 12...   Dec 15, 2007 - 12:35 AM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(thespacepanda @ Dec 14, 2007 - 9...   Dec 17, 2007 - 3:04 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(GriffGirl @ Dec 17, 2007 - 3:0...   Dec 17, 2007 - 9:26 PM
- - afroman   I have not read all or the post nor do i care to b...   Dec 15, 2007 - 12:14 AM
- - fastgt   Some people should really consider giving up drugs   Dec 17, 2007 - 3:27 PM
- - GriffGirl   I'll take it under advisement. Some people sh...   Dec 17, 2007 - 3:58 PM
- - fastgt   ha!..........   Dec 17, 2007 - 5:31 PM
- - GriffGirl   QUOTE(fastgt @ Dec 17, 2007 - 2:31 P...   Dec 17, 2007 - 8:13 PM


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