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post Sep 8, 2007 - 12:09 PM
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Dr_Tweak



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Some weeks back I had a customer doing a 3SGTE swap into a '91 Celica that I did a wiring conversion for. After he got it back and installed, I asked him for the part number on his ECU since I've seen many situations where the importers send the wrong ECU for the year of the harness. Sure enough, he had a '91 Harness but a '93 ECU. I advised him to get a '91 ECU, but he was having a hard time locating one.

About the same time, I started gathering parts and doing research for making jumper harnesses for various Toyota applications. I located the supplier for the female ECU plugs for a few different Toyota harnesses. When I got one in that matched the 3SGTE harnesses, I though, why not make a jumper harness that goes from a '91 harness to a '93 ECU, or a '93 harness to a '91 ECU? Then customers who run into this situation don't have to find another ECU or repin the whole harness.

Since I had this customer, Bryant, who had this very situation at hand, and since I happened to be going near where he lived on a recent road trip, I decided to whip up a prototype and give it a try.

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There it is plugged into a 3SGE ECU as an example. This first one came out a little rough, the production model will be cleaner.

And here it is plugged into the car:

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The jumper harness worked PERFECTLY. It fired up the first try and is running great, no codes and no problems at all smile.gif

If anyone wants one of these jumper harnesses let me know, I'm currently building them to order.

Other applications for this setup include plug and play jumper harnesses for standalone units that don't already have a plug and play setup, like perhaps 3SGTE/Autronic, and so on.

-Doc


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post Jan 2, 2008 - 6:05 PM
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Still tweak vs the world I see smile.gif

tweak you do excellent work, i have always respected you when these debates come up, im sorry that it seems like Lagos persuaded me not to get the swap done by you, but it was more of a recommendation because of the uniqueness of the swap and the problems that usually arise post swap.

wannabe, you are a very valued member of this community but i think tweak is pretty reasonable on his prices.

Posts in this topic
- Dr_Tweak   Using a '93 3SGTE ECU on a '91 3SGTE Engine and Harness   Sep 8, 2007 - 12:09 PM
- - presure2   nice work tweek.   Sep 8, 2007 - 12:24 PM
- - toyotacrazy   Thats cool you are doing this. I was one of the p...   Sep 9, 2007 - 10:18 AM
- - Punch   just when you think he couldnt do anything better ...   Sep 9, 2007 - 12:28 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Thanks guys Now that I have access to these fema...   Sep 9, 2007 - 9:03 PM
- - Rayme   I love your soldering skills   Sep 12, 2007 - 9:37 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   $199, in stock, if you want one, email me at ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 1:20 PM
|- - BriinumsBo   QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 27, 2007 - 1:2...   Jul 13, 2010 - 7:39 AM
- - pittfirefighter   i have a 92 ecu with a blown 92 block and crank......   Dec 27, 2007 - 1:33 PM
- - lagos   thats some nice work! now get started on a 3sg...   Dec 27, 2007 - 1:48 PM
- - Supersprynt   You know what I'd like, ST185 -> ST205 ecu.   Dec 27, 2007 - 6:58 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(lagos @ Dec 27, 2007 - 6:48 PM...   Dec 27, 2007 - 7:19 PM
- - Supersprynt   I have a 92. I am sorta thinking out loud, but it ...   Dec 27, 2007 - 8:02 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 27, 2007 - 7...   Dec 27, 2007 - 10:15 PM
||- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 28, 2007 - 3:1...   Dec 28, 2007 - 5:54 AM
||- - jgreening   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Dec 28, 2007 ...   Dec 28, 2007 - 11:56 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(Supersprynt @ Dec 28, 2007 - 1...   Dec 29, 2007 - 12:38 AM
- - Supersprynt   Hmm, yes I understand. Stand alone much more worth...   Dec 28, 2007 - 2:10 AM
- - Supersprynt   Well if you can't inference it from what we...   Dec 28, 2007 - 8:57 AM
- - lagos   I thought about doing this in the past, but like j...   Dec 29, 2007 - 6:00 AM
- - WannabeGT4   I was curious about the mark up on this so I did a...   Jan 2, 2008 - 1:30 AM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 2, 2008 - 6:3...   Jan 2, 2008 - 4:38 AM
||- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jan 2, 2008 - ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 9:26 AM
||- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 2, 2008 - 2:2...   Jan 2, 2008 - 12:18 PM
||- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jan 2, 2008 - ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 1:00 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 2, 2008 - 9:5...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:10 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 4:10 ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:35 PM
- - Gary   I used to make these adapters. I sold one for ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:00 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Woah, how did you find the PCB part number? I...   Jan 2, 2008 - 11:49 AM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 10:49...   Jan 2, 2008 - 12:43 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   No dude, I'm serious. I really want you to mak...   Jan 2, 2008 - 1:36 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 12:36...   Jan 2, 2008 - 1:54 PM
|- - BloodyStupidDavey   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 2, 2008 - 6:5...   Jan 2, 2008 - 4:09 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(BloodyStupidDavey @ Jan 2, 2008 - ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 4:51 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   You're right, it's my attitude. 6GC Commu...   Jan 2, 2008 - 1:57 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 12:57...   Jan 2, 2008 - 2:38 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Well done. Actually, I would be happy to admit tha...   Jan 2, 2008 - 4:19 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 3:19 ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 4:25 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE I get someone like you or Lagos saying, ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:16 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 2, 2008 - 10:16 PM...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:29 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEDon't take it the wrong way Lagos, we...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:46 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 2, 2008 - 4:46 PM)...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:51 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 2, 2008 - 10...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:52 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 4:52 ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 8:59 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEBy the way, if you ever have any broken plugs...   Jan 2, 2008 - 5:59 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Damn right, you know that when you call I automati...   Jan 2, 2008 - 6:01 PM
- - brianforster   Still tweak vs the world I see tweak you do exce...   Jan 2, 2008 - 6:05 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(brianforster @ Jan 2, 2008 - 5...   Jan 2, 2008 - 6:23 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEI am reminded of the time when I decided to i...   Jan 2, 2008 - 6:44 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   How much? $7 each or something? So if you a...   Jan 2, 2008 - 9:03 PM
|- - WannabeGT4   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 2, 2008 - 8:03 ...   Jan 2, 2008 - 9:15 PM
- - lagos   you rock. all of those come up as valid toyota par...   Jan 2, 2008 - 9:43 PM
- - Punch   hey Doc if you find out how to st185-st205 let me...   Jan 3, 2008 - 12:17 AM
- - Supersprynt   Woooow. I think Doc Tweak is a real asset to this...   Jan 3, 2008 - 1:12 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Jan 3, 2008 - 2:1...   Jan 3, 2008 - 7:02 AM
- - DEATH   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 3, 2008 - 7:02 ...   Jan 3, 2008 - 7:22 AM


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