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post Nov 8, 2007 - 1:08 PM
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Quick background:

This project was "started" by a board member from Ohio. After a year of frustrating stories and miss leading information i decided it was time to transfer the my car to Speed-Source to be completed.
Upon arrival to speed-source we soon realized the reality was much worse than first anticipated. The problems ranged from exterior damage, terrible wiring, torn apart interior with missing parts etc etc etc.
I was on the verge of parting out this project. Literally trying to decide between continuing or selling the shell and spare parts. This was a tough time. Especially realizing the wasted year of turmoil and money i had just been dragged through. It was not cool, and I'm still very upset, disappointed and devastated.

So, what's the plan now then?

The plan is already in effect. The swap has started over. The engine is out and being torn down and gone over. After seeing the level of craftsmanship that this project had been subject to, it was the only option.

At this point, I'd like to thank Carl at Speed-Source for being willing to take on this project. They're top quality guys and will make sure things are done right. They've worked on members cars here like jgreening's past 3sgte Celica.

The pictures:
**pictures taken of project after being received by Speed-Source.**

Exterior:







Wiring:







Exhaust welds:







Interior:





Engine bay (nowhere near complete):





This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Aug 12, 2008 - 1:21 AM


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post Jan 22, 2008 - 2:09 PM
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just a question, how do you know it will fit, i know somebody did it before, but gosh it amazes me.

is there work involving the engine mounts...
what is the total cost of the swap
is there axle modification
can you turbo this?

Yes i know too many questions, but i bet somebody else is curious as me. There arent many stickies about v6, and i find this amzing....


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post Jan 22, 2008 - 5:41 PM
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QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

just a question, how do you know it will fit, i know somebody did it before, but gosh it amazes me.


It fits perfectly fine. Yes, its been done before.

QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

is there work involving the engine mounts...


Yes. Details will be forthcoming in a little while. St205 mounts seem to work, but i think Carl @ Speed-Source might be playing around with that setup.

QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

what is the total cost of the swap


It all depends what you want to do. Tune-up, no tune-up - e153 tranny, or s54 tranny (I would suggest sticking to only V6 tranny personally for gearing and strength - but that's a whole other thread), and of course, labor on all these different types of setups are different. As far as pricing goes, it runs around the 3s neighborhood. Again, it all depends on what you're wanting to do. Solara V6 clips/very complete engine sets run about the same as 3s clips. Some may shake their heads at this "higher than expected" price, but its very hard to find a Solara that has not been processed by the yard for its separate parts. The more parts from that car you can get the better. I was able to get everything down the the fuel pump setup.

QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

is there axle modification


Many people will say something like "st185 axles with mr2 inners and a 3s spacer" (see skicky for details). I had this setup from previously, but Carl does not like it. He is looking at using the stock V6 axles or at least the outer CV's. He will be making some measurements on a friends V6 Solara to determine right setup options.

QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

can you turbo this?


If its a non-vvti engine (like mine is), then yes. But personally, TRD makes a pretty nice S/C for this engine - so if i were to ever add more hp, i'd go SC'd path.

QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1:09 PM) [snapback]633275[/snapback]

Yes i know too many questions, but i bet somebody else is curious as me. There arent many stickies about v6, and i find this amazing....


Hope this helps. smile.gif

edit: typo

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Jan 22, 2008 - 5:58 PM


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post Jan 23, 2008 - 9:58 AM
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QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Jan 22, 2008 - 4:41 PM) [snapback]633358[/snapback]

If its a non-vvti engine (like mine is), then yes. But personally, TRD makes a pretty nice S/C for this engine - so if i were to ever add more hp, i'd go SC'd path.


Colin, the reviews on the TRD supercharger for the 1mz are mixed with some very knowledgable people pretty critical. You might want to look for posts from Toysrme on mr2.com. Personally, I would go with a custom rotrex setup if I ever supercharged that beast.

Glad to see things are coming along.

- Jay


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jan 24, 2008 - 3:41 PM
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QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 10:13 PM) [snapback]633500[/snapback]

snap, you are going to have a great celica once this is done. With all you have been through and to finally see this through is remarkable.

respect.


I appreciate it Dustin. Its been a very tough road, but I have learned many things.


QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 23, 2008 - 8:58 AM) [snapback]633628[/snapback]

Colin, the reviews on the TRD supercharger for the 1mz are mixed with some very knowledgable people pretty critical. You might want to look for posts from Toysrme on mr2.com. Personally, I would go with a custom rotrex setup if I ever supercharged that beast.

Glad to see things are coming along.

- Jay


Jay, thanks for the heads up. I will probably never S/C it, but if i do this is good info. Thanks. smile.gif


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- snapshotgt   V6 & restoration project thread   Nov 8, 2007 - 1:08 PM
- - phonex98   Where the **** did you have the celica before...   Nov 8, 2007 - 1:12 PM
- - Valo666   yea that soildering looks terrible. Are you doing ...   Nov 8, 2007 - 1:20 PM
- - lagos   it looks like soldering and welding are not the gu...   Nov 8, 2007 - 1:36 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(lagos @ Nov 8, 2007 - 12:36 PM...   Nov 8, 2007 - 8:13 PM
- - playr158   wow dude, wondering where you have been, sorry to ...   Nov 8, 2007 - 2:07 PM
- - 95celgt   DAM!, wasn't your car just repainted a whi...   Nov 8, 2007 - 2:13 PM
|- - snapshotgt   Thanks guys for your support. It has been tough i...   Nov 8, 2007 - 7:03 PM
- - presure2   man, sorry to hear about all this bad luck, man. w...   Nov 8, 2007 - 8:58 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Rayme @ Nov 8, 2007 - 9:23 PM)...   Nov 10, 2007 - 12:44 AM
- - jdg371   Good LUCK! That is going to be a beast when fi...   Nov 8, 2007 - 9:59 PM
- - Rayme   Good luck, isn't your engine some kind of 1mz...   Nov 8, 2007 - 10:23 PM
- - jcbass7   Colin, I'm glad to see this on the road to com...   Nov 9, 2007 - 6:32 AM
- - K-ESD   can't wait t'ill it's done !!...   Nov 10, 2007 - 2:12 PM
- - snapshotgt   The 3.3L engine is shot. Compression tests show u...   Nov 14, 2007 - 10:21 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Nov 14, 2007 - 10...   Nov 14, 2007 - 10:35 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Nov 14, 2007 - 9:3...   Nov 15, 2007 - 12:36 AM
- - K-ESD   ahhh NO !! Thats bad news   Nov 14, 2007 - 10:28 PM
- - frosty   Holy mess! Those pics are ridiculous! I wo...   Nov 15, 2007 - 10:22 AM
- - Rayme   It sad that you lost some money but I'm pretty...   Nov 15, 2007 - 5:33 PM
- - jgreening   Update!   Dec 7, 2007 - 11:38 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(jgreening @ Dec 7, 2007 - 10:3...   Dec 8, 2007 - 1:08 PM
- - Toyota_Todd   Still no V6's here collin. We did a Tercel us...   Dec 13, 2007 - 6:58 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Toyota_Todd @ Dec 13, 2007 - 5...   Dec 15, 2007 - 11:18 PM
- - presure2   thread edited per collins request. please keep thi...   Dec 15, 2007 - 4:47 PM
- - snapshotgt   Purchased '99 5spd 1mz-fe. Its coming with wi...   Dec 27, 2007 - 10:45 PM
- - Batman722   yay !!! glad to see it on it way ...   Dec 28, 2007 - 12:36 AM
- - jcbass7   !!!!   Dec 28, 2007 - 11:43 AM
- - jgreening   update please.   Jan 16, 2008 - 2:46 PM
- - snapshotgt   Okay, update. Tune up is done. I'm told ...   Jan 17, 2008 - 10:39 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Jan 17, 2008 - 10...   Jan 18, 2008 - 9:52 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(laff09 @ Jan 18, 2008 - 8:52 A...   Jan 18, 2008 - 11:00 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Glad to see that your project is moving ahead Coll...   Jan 21, 2008 - 8:19 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Dr_Tweak @ Jan 21, 2008 - 7:19...   Jan 21, 2008 - 10:36 PM
- - njccmd2002   just a question, how do you know it will fit, i kn...   Jan 22, 2008 - 2:09 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 1...   Jan 22, 2008 - 5:41 PM
|- - jgreening   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Jan 22, 2008 - 4...   Jan 23, 2008 - 9:58 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(Batman722 @ Jan 22, 2008 - 10...   Jan 24, 2008 - 3:41 PM
- - zero07   Keep it goin man! Hope its done by the time...   Jan 22, 2008 - 5:55 PM
- - Batman722   snap, you are going to have a great celica once th...   Jan 22, 2008 - 11:13 PM
- - j0e_p3t   looking forward to it. just don't end up selli...   Jan 23, 2008 - 3:30 AM
- - njccmd2002   i think i know what im saving for, in the next yea...   Jan 23, 2008 - 8:34 PM
- - snapshotgt   Pictures of "test fitting" are up: CLICK...   Jan 26, 2008 - 8:19 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Jan 26, 2008 - 7...   Feb 1, 2008 - 4:42 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 1, 2008 - 4:4...   Feb 1, 2008 - 6:38 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Make sure those guys know that if they want to sav...   Jan 29, 2008 - 2:27 PM
- - DEATH   My god that's a massive lump of engine I kno...   Jan 29, 2008 - 2:38 PM
- - jason   or a spark plug on the rear side   Jan 29, 2008 - 2:49 PM
- - K-ESD   access on this engine is not compromised, there is...   Jan 29, 2008 - 4:40 PM
- - punkuup5150   that motor looks like it just belongs in there can...   Jan 29, 2008 - 10:01 PM
- - jgreening   Looks great. Whats the ETA? Maybe when you come ...   Feb 5, 2008 - 1:17 PM
|- - goferris   NVM Can't wait to see the final results   Feb 5, 2008 - 10:40 PM
|- - snapshotgt   UPDATE: Exhaust is done. Using a Greddy sp2 catb...   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - xs94st   man that mount is BEEFY nice job man glad thing...   Feb 5, 2008 - 11:17 PM
- - lagos   Ive been waiting for this like Duke Nukem Forever....   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:28 PM
- - njccmd2002   nice mount, now, how much are thye charging you......   Feb 7, 2008 - 4:59 PM
- - snapshotgt   UPDATE: First off, found the parts I needed. Now...   Feb 8, 2008 - 7:40 PM
|- - jgreening   NICE!!!! +1 to me for hooking you...   Feb 8, 2008 - 7:55 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 8, 2008 - 7:4...   Feb 8, 2008 - 11:14 PM
|- - laff09   QUOTE(snapshotgt @ Feb 8, 2008 - 7:4...   Feb 9, 2008 - 3:40 AM
- - presure2   man, i am continually amazed by carls work. impres...   Feb 9, 2008 - 10:55 AM
- - jgreening   Time for an update.   Feb 17, 2008 - 5:51 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(jgreening @ Feb 17, 2008 - 4:5...   Feb 18, 2008 - 3:35 PM
- - jgreening   Thats great.   Feb 18, 2008 - 4:40 PM
- - Batman722   RE: V6 & restoration project thread   Feb 18, 2008 - 4:51 PM
- - snapshotgt   > MORE PICTURES   Feb 19, 2008 - 8:14 PM
- - lagos   Lookin good, Snap.   Feb 19, 2008 - 9:42 PM
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- - j0e_p3t   its about damn time. now get over there and take s...   Mar 8, 2008 - 3:06 PM
- - jgreening   Great News!   Mar 8, 2008 - 4:03 PM
- - snapshotgt   Yes, it is GREAT news. The check engine light did...   Mar 8, 2008 - 8:53 PM
- - Batman722   that is fantastic news if all goes well (no set ...   Mar 8, 2008 - 11:48 PM
- - Jared95   maybe even make it to the meet?   Mar 8, 2008 - 11:59 PM
- - presure2   fantastic! outstanding! i would expect not...   Mar 9, 2008 - 8:02 AM
- - K-ESD   It's about time !! Finally, I have a ...   Mar 9, 2008 - 9:49 AM
- - njccmd2002   so the v6 came out of a solara, now solaras have a...   Mar 9, 2008 - 10:13 AM
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- - K-ESD   QUOTE(njccmd2002 @ Mar 9, 2008 - 11...   Mar 9, 2008 - 10:01 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE(K-ESD @ Mar 9, 2008 - 10...   Mar 9, 2008 - 10:59 PM
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- - Shigexile   woooo you made it!! congrats man   Apr 5, 2008 - 12:34 AM
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