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post Sep 29, 2007 - 10:06 AM
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Hey all,
as some of you may know, shannon and jim (supershannon77) have a 3sgte swapped 6gc, that they bought from RJB on the forum.
They started off with a 91 auto GT, that they had a local shop install a "ebay special" turbo kit on. the shop installed the kit, and promptly blew the motor @ 5.5 psi.
shannon then had the shop source and install a 99 5s, and made ~147whp if I remember correctly, with the auto tranny, @ 5.5psi
They then blew said auto tranny. lol
So, IIRC, they sold the 5th gen to a friend, and bought RJBs car.
They have had a few problems with it, including a bad tranny, which Defgeph and I went down and replaced for them.
While i was down there, jims brother joe bought the old 5th gen back, with the blown tranny, and fresh 99 motor in it.
We disscussed diffrent options for it, including a manual tranny swap, but with the car having pre 93 electronics, and no knock sensor system, I convinced them the best thing to do would be to find a nice 6th gen chassis to swap the engine package into.
At that time, we also disscussed power goals, and to me, it seemed like Jim and Shannon were just looking for a streetable, everyday drivable car, with ~225 or so hp, to make the trip a bit more enjoyable wink.gif .
Where Joe, on the other had, is really looking to build a BEAST down the road, 350+whp ect.
Fast forward a few weeks, and browsing the FS section here on the board, I see a nice 95 with a blown motor. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=49717&hl=
Bing, Bang, Boom, Jim and Joe are on it, and go put a deposit on the car.
We set everything up, and a few weeks later, Jim, Shannon, and Joe, load the 5th gen INTO the back of a uhaul truck, put the 6th gen on a car hauler attached to the back of said uhaul, and drove them up here.
here are some pics and discriptions of whats gone on since.

They arrive with the cars:
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We get the 6th gen off the car carrier:
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HOLY CRAP, they really DID stick the 5th gen in the back of the Uhaul!!!!!
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this was NOT as easy as it looks:
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mmmm yellow nology wires!! LMAO
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With that done, the following morning we got right to work, and got the cars up and draining, and prepped to get the bad motor out:
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Then we pulled the motor and tranny out of the 6th gen:
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post Feb 7, 2008 - 2:19 PM
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most typical rebuilds cost ~350-400$.
are they supossed to do all the CNC machine work they do on them for free?
comeon art.


How much did they charge you for your turbo? wink.gif
Their cost is probably about 200 bucks of parts and cnc work (if that). All they do is a standard rebuild and just put it on a cnc machine to bore out the exhaust side. At 400-500$ price point, they will still be making a 50% markup on the turbo, and sell about twice as many of them. As it stands right now, you have to give ats 1,000$ for a ct27, and hope they accept your core.

Garrett can build (not rebuild) a brand spaking new turbo for LESS then 500 bucks, sell it to KO, then they mark it up and sell it to you....and its STILL a good amount less then what ats charges for a rebuild, and you end up with a MUCH better turbo. On top of that, you still have your old turbo that you can sell for 1-200 bucks brining the cost down to about 400, for a BRAND NEW turbo.

The only excuse they have is that the ct27 is a direct bolt on, and the t3/t4 is not, but if you compare turbo's to turbo's, the ct27 is overpriced.

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- presure2   supershannon77's new 5SFTE powered celica   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:06 AM
- - presure2   While we worked on that, Jeremey (alltracman78) ha...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:14 AM
- - presure2   This was theyre downpipe / B pipe: just keep tha...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:23 AM
- - presure2   Once the motor was in, Jeff (defgeph) came up and ...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:28 AM
- - presure2   And got theyre HUGE FMIC and piping together. sinc...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:37 AM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(presure2 @ Sep 29, 2007 - 11:3...   Sep 30, 2007 - 12:01 AM
- - presure2   the gauges: With everything installed, we prepe...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:56 AM
- - supershannon77   Right now all I want to say is I LOVE THESE GUYS...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:17 AM
- - tim86   wow... once again saving the day, one celica at a ...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:18 AM
- - Valo666   nice manny. Do shannon and Jim still have the blue...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:18 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Valo666 @ Sep 29, 2007 - 12:18...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:36 AM
- - Valo666   im going back to stock + a bit better in a month o...   Sep 29, 2007 - 11:43 AM
- - 6strngs   god damn it! I see this and I have a newfound ...   Sep 29, 2007 - 12:27 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I have seen this build in person and it is very im...   Sep 29, 2007 - 12:35 PM
- - Fate   i want JDM guys to come to my place for my swap wh...   Sep 29, 2007 - 12:43 PM
- - lagos   very clean install. amazing work manny. hope shann...   Sep 29, 2007 - 1:13 PM
- - 1bwilson   Very nice work guys, nothing but the best from JDM...   Sep 29, 2007 - 2:09 PM
- - 99GT   Labor is free?   Sep 29, 2007 - 2:18 PM
- - LewFX   free with room and board and food and few 12 packs...   Sep 29, 2007 - 3:03 PM
- - purepunishment   i had all my stuff to turbo mine but i didnt know ...   Sep 29, 2007 - 3:12 PM
- - kcizzle   This is awesome! Everything sounds easy but th...   Sep 29, 2007 - 3:36 PM
- - 97Celica   posts like this make me want to buy a GT...   Sep 29, 2007 - 5:05 PM
- - Remy   Very nice work, can't wait to see the car when...   Sep 29, 2007 - 5:43 PM
- - Defgeph   Nice work guys   Sep 29, 2007 - 6:42 PM
- - Black2na   this car is awsome between dustin manny jeff and j...   Sep 29, 2007 - 7:54 PM
- - NaderG   240 HP and 270 Ftlbs of torque .... jeeze! tha...   Sep 29, 2007 - 10:31 PM
- - presure2   thanks D, i was gonna go out this AM and get a few...   Sep 30, 2007 - 8:15 AM
- - CaliJeff   batman, is ur tray bolted to the floor?   Sep 30, 2007 - 10:36 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(CaliJeff @ Sep 30, 2007 - 11:3...   Sep 30, 2007 - 12:45 PM
- - supershannon77   Look at the first to pics Manny has no shirt on......   Sep 30, 2007 - 10:48 AM
- - Rdizzle   wow, great work on this! Are you using any sor...   Sep 30, 2007 - 10:58 AM
- - jcbass7   Great work guys/gals, another JDM GUY Success...   Sep 30, 2007 - 11:40 AM
- - 99GT   Pump gas? Race gas? What type of dyno?   Sep 30, 2007 - 12:42 PM
- - lagos   what did your safc settings end up looking like?   Sep 30, 2007 - 1:18 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 30, 2007 - 2:18 PM...   Sep 30, 2007 - 1:37 PM
- - 99GT   On pump gas.... very impressive. Good work. So w...   Sep 30, 2007 - 1:52 PM
- - massbrandon   Manny everything looks amazing. You guys should re...   Sep 30, 2007 - 3:33 PM
- - Harold_Fastwaker   Nice work. Power looks great as well. I do sug...   Sep 30, 2007 - 8:59 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Harold_Fastwaker @ Sep 30, 2007 - ...   Sep 30, 2007 - 9:09 PM
- - NaderG   what about fuel economy ? how much MPG are u getti...   Sep 30, 2007 - 9:22 PM
- - 99GT   Any concerns about boost spikes?   Sep 30, 2007 - 9:24 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(99GT @ Sep 30, 2007 - 10:24 PM...   Sep 30, 2007 - 9:47 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   awesome! glad to see it done. i wouldn't e...   Oct 1, 2007 - 7:20 AM
- - Black2na   my favorite quote from when i had my Supercharged ...   Oct 1, 2007 - 9:46 PM
- - 6strngs   so.. 240whp on pump gas vs. your 235whp on race ga...   Oct 4, 2007 - 12:27 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(6strngs @ Oct 4, 2007 - 1:27 A...   Oct 4, 2007 - 2:07 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 4, 2007 - 3:07 AM)...   Oct 4, 2007 - 5:45 AM
- - 99GT   Are you/they plan to run that setup at 11 daily? ...   Oct 4, 2007 - 9:57 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(99GT @ Oct 4, 2007 - 10:57 AM)...   Oct 4, 2007 - 11:26 AM
- - Kadett   I love these threads, great work guys To anyone ...   Oct 7, 2007 - 2:36 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Kadett @ Oct 7, 2007 - 3:36 PM...   Oct 7, 2007 - 2:39 PM
- - malpaso   you are amazing folks...   Oct 8, 2007 - 2:41 AM
- - eggman40   Man you guys make it sound and look so easy   Oct 9, 2007 - 7:04 PM
- - 99GT   Any updates?   Oct 18, 2007 - 10:51 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(99GT @ Oct 18, 2007 - 11:51 AM...   Oct 18, 2007 - 10:56 AM
|- - jcbass7   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 18, 2007 - 11:5...   Oct 18, 2007 - 4:57 PM
|- - Batman722   QUOTE(jcbass7 @ Oct 18, 2007 - 5:57 ...   Oct 18, 2007 - 5:34 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(jcbass7 @ Oct 18, 2007 - 5:57 ...   Oct 18, 2007 - 5:45 PM
- - Rdizzle   Any way you could post the AFC tune? I actually ha...   Oct 18, 2007 - 2:39 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Rdizzle @ Oct 18, 2007 - 3:39 ...   Oct 18, 2007 - 4:08 PM
- - cHinaman727   gawd i love it.... so how much did they spend doin...   Oct 18, 2007 - 6:33 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(cHinaman727 @ Oct 18, 2007 - 7...   Oct 18, 2007 - 7:15 PM
- - cHinaman727   so they blew the 3sgte and brought a 5sfe off a 5t...   Oct 18, 2007 - 11:30 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(cHinaman727 @ Oct 19, 2007 - 12...   Oct 19, 2007 - 5:52 AM
- - Defgeph   Nice paint job.   Oct 18, 2007 - 11:41 PM
- - supershannon77   In a few hours I get to see my new car..I cant wai...   Oct 19, 2007 - 3:46 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(supershannon77 @ Oct 19, 2007 - 1...   Oct 19, 2007 - 6:41 PM
- - cHinaman727   my bad presure, i read it wrong the first time.   Oct 19, 2007 - 4:12 PM
- - supershannon77   LOL I am so sorry I didnt thank you...THANK YOU RA...   Oct 20, 2007 - 7:50 AM
- - Rdizzle   Did you use any sort of FPR for this or just strai...   Oct 30, 2007 - 11:35 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Rdizzle @ Oct 31, 2007 - 12:35...   Oct 31, 2007 - 5:40 AM
|- - Rdizzle   QUOTE(presure2 @ Oct 31, 2007 - 5:40...   Oct 31, 2007 - 2:20 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Rdizzle @ Oct 31, 2007 - 3:20 ...   Oct 31, 2007 - 3:55 PM
- - Daftsgirl   Car looks and Drives Beautifully   Oct 31, 2007 - 10:28 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE(Rdizzle @ Oct 31, 2007 - 3:20 ...   Oct 31, 2007 - 3:57 PM
- - Rdizzle   very similar to shannons. In what circumstance wou...   Oct 31, 2007 - 4:47 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(Rdizzle @ Oct 31, 2007 - 5:47 ...   Oct 31, 2007 - 5:11 PM
- - Rdizzle   well that just saved me some money, Thanks!   Oct 31, 2007 - 10:59 PM
- - seacelica   My old car! Im so glad to see that shes back o...   Nov 5, 2007 - 7:48 PM
- - 6strngs   sorry to revive an old thread. just wondering if t...   Feb 6, 2008 - 3:49 AM
- - zCelicaDude   in regards to the oil filter relocation kit, was i...   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:12 AM
- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 6, 2008 - 3:49 A...   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:45 AM
- - supra12big   so what would u say the quality of that turbo, sin...   Feb 6, 2008 - 3:21 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(supra12big @ Feb 6, 2008 - 3:2...   Feb 6, 2008 - 3:57 PM
- - lagos   QUOTEyou can buy a REAL garrett turbo, with a much...   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:02 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 6, 2008 - 5:02 PM)...   Feb 6, 2008 - 5:08 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE(presure2 @ Feb 6, 2008 - 5:08 ...   Feb 6, 2008 - 10:30 PM
- - 6strngs   would it fit if you turned the CT26 to T3 adaptor ...   Feb 7, 2008 - 2:37 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(6strngs @ Feb 7, 2008 - 2:37 A...   Feb 7, 2008 - 6:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE most typical rebuilds cost ~350-400$. a...   Feb 7, 2008 - 2:19 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE(lagos @ Feb 7, 2008 - 2:19 PM)...   Feb 7, 2008 - 5:09 PM
- - supershannon77   Jeff(defgeph) made that downpipe we did not use th...   Feb 7, 2008 - 6:26 PM
- - presure2   shannons car is back up here, getting the followin...   Jul 4, 2008 - 12:03 PM
- - pitcelica   do you have compressor surge at low boost with thi...   Jul 8, 2008 - 3:01 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Jul 8, 2008 - 4:0...   Jul 8, 2008 - 3:23 PM
- - pitcelica   i mean, you certainly not go into boost each time ...   Jul 8, 2008 - 7:52 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (pitcelica @ Jul 8, 2008 - 8:5...   Jul 13, 2008 - 4:38 PM
- - pitcelica   ok, thanks for the pics... I'll try to investi...   Jul 13, 2008 - 8:47 PM
- - 808celica   dang i wanna do this but im scared could prolly g...   Jul 13, 2008 - 9:14 PM
- - presure2   so, the car has been up here a while, i installed ...   Aug 23, 2008 - 11:25 AM
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