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post Aug 29, 2007 - 7:08 PM
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94celicadude



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Hey all,
I am currently building up my 7afe, i have bought a separate head and have already had new valve guides installed, its been cleaned and i have brand new toyota valves, exhaust and intake, i have had the intake ones machined to have more of the performance "penny on a stick" figure, i will post pics soon but for now here is an example Valves.

I am also going to have the Extrude Hone process ( Extrude Hone ) done to the entire head. The current 7afe in my car has a custom 4-1 headers (Headers), full exhaust, intake, clutch, lightweight flywheel, Apexi S-AFC II, bumped timing to about 14 degrees static timing. If i can find a used GT throttle body i will try to make it work, they seem to be fairly similar. Its been tuned and it has over 225k miles on the original engine. The gear box has been rebuild to brand new, and at last dyno the car was putting just about exactly 100 WHP on a 95 F day.

So i figure its already a healthy working little motor. To make this short, i was wondering who has had the highest NA horsepower out of a 7-afe . I am hoping to be able to build my motor to about 120-130 WHP, that would be ideal but im not sure exactly if i will achieve that goal. The bottom end is going to get first O.S. pistons, the head will be decked for a slightly higher compression ratio, and the entire engine will be blue printed. Then the entire crank assembly will be dynamically balanced with the flywheel and all the accessories on either end of it. Then it will all be put back together and have another tuning session on the dyno.

Now i know that it seems like a lot of money to do everything i am, which it is for only 130 WHP, but im looking to make this a great motor for auto-x. And if i have 200 WHP then ill just create a smoke show, so thats why im not just swapping in something else.

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Who has the highest NA power 7afe with dyno numbers to prove it? kindasad.gif

This post has been edited by 94celicadude: May 9, 2008 - 5:27 PM


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post Feb 13, 2008 - 11:24 PM
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Well i got the bottom end back today, i think the pics are pretty self explanatory. If you have any questions just ask!

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Balanced Flywheel and Pressure Plate

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Cleaned Intake Manifold

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Hole created to remove "casting wart" (I have to weld it on the weekend, ill post a pic of it shut

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Close up of said hole

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SHINY!!!! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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New Water Pump

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More shiny/clean pieces laugh.gif

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Its truly a lot smaller than you would think tongue.gif

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Bottom End Already Assembled biggrin.gif

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Shot-peened Rods (dunno bout spelling)

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New pistons, bored cylinders, decked block

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New valves, machined intake valves, balanced/polished combustion chambers

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Close Up shot of the exhaust port, that is how smooth the extrude hone process makes it, better than just PORTING!! laugh.gif

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Shimming valves

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Notice matching marks on cam gears. Its a factory mods wink.gif

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Both cams in and bolted down, all valves shimmed to proper clearances.

I also just realized that i am going to need to remove the cams again to be able to bolt the head on woops rolleyes.gif

More pics to come soon of final re-assembly. Wish me luck

This post has been edited by 94celicadude: Feb 13, 2008 - 11:31 PM


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Posts in this topic
- 94celicadude   Max Power NA 7afe ????   Aug 29, 2007 - 7:08 PM
- - Bitter   200whp isnt going to happen, 130-140 crank would b...   Aug 29, 2007 - 8:20 PM
- - Kwanza26   Just swap in a 20V 4AG and you'll already have...   Aug 31, 2007 - 10:53 AM
- - devilsden97   ^ +1 6gc.net, killing 1 dream at a time.   Aug 31, 2007 - 10:54 AM
- - Blakout16   haha ur totally stealing my line. didnt u see i co...   Aug 31, 2007 - 2:37 PM
- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(devilsden97 @ Aug 31, 2007 - 3...   Aug 31, 2007 - 3:51 PM
|- - n1ckz0r   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Aug 31, 2007 - 5...   Feb 12, 2008 - 12:13 AM
- - raj1   here is my dyno results i got last year on my 7afe...   Aug 31, 2007 - 8:02 PM
- - 95CelicaST   130 WHP = 4A-GE Silvertop stock It would be cheap...   Sep 1, 2007 - 12:26 AM
- - jason   doesnt engine swapping change the type of class yo...   Sep 1, 2007 - 12:49 AM
|- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(jason @ Sep 1, 2007 - 5:49 AM)...   Sep 3, 2007 - 12:47 AM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jason @ Sep 1, 2007 - 5:49 AM)...   Sep 4, 2007 - 9:58 PM
- - Hanyo   if you are going to try to go all motor, you might...   Sep 1, 2007 - 1:57 AM
- - j0e_p3t   QUOTEWho has the highest NA power 7afe with dyno n...   Sep 1, 2007 - 2:52 AM
- - bindertch   Where are you getting an extrude hone job done and...   Sep 1, 2007 - 9:12 PM
|- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(bindertch @ Sep 2, 2007 - 2:12...   Sep 2, 2007 - 11:59 PM
- - Bitter   get a standalone ECM so you can have full control ...   Sep 3, 2007 - 10:16 AM
- - 94celicadude   Well, i do not mean to bring this thread back fro...   Feb 11, 2008 - 9:57 PM
- - lagos   Good luck. At least your actually doing this and n...   Feb 11, 2008 - 10:36 PM
- - Bitter   why stay with nearly stock CR? could have bumped ...   Feb 11, 2008 - 11:21 PM
- - 94celicadude   well, i had to stay only with the first oversize p...   Feb 11, 2008 - 11:41 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Feb 11, 2008 - 11...   Feb 12, 2008 - 8:56 PM
- - 95st-celica   sounds good man...good luck...you should be able t...   Feb 12, 2008 - 12:28 AM
- - laff09   Whatd it cost you? and when are ya going to get it...   Feb 12, 2008 - 1:17 AM
- - Bricy   you should look into a set of webcam regrinds, Hur...   Feb 12, 2008 - 6:29 AM
- - playr158   I'll donate an extra set of stock cams for a r...   Feb 12, 2008 - 7:16 AM
|- - zbigb   I’m following your progress with interest. I am r...   Feb 12, 2008 - 1:03 PM
- - 94celicadude   ^^^^^ wow thank you so much for that information,...   Feb 12, 2008 - 5:40 PM
- - Bricy   Good Luck! I know all of us 7a peeps are rooti...   Feb 12, 2008 - 6:10 PM
- - 94celicadude   Well i got the bottom end back today, i think the ...   Feb 13, 2008 - 11:24 PM
- - markjbutler   so clean and shiny!! Wish I had the space...   Feb 15, 2008 - 6:54 AM
- - hurley97   you're doing all that head work and putting th...   Feb 16, 2008 - 5:42 PM
|- - zbigb   If you do add some cams , here is a way to mod you...   Feb 16, 2008 - 6:33 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE(zbigb @ Feb 16, 2008 - 11:33 P...   Feb 16, 2008 - 10:44 PM
|- - zbigb   Probably not. You would loose more low end than y...   Feb 16, 2008 - 11:39 PM
- - 94celicadude   thnks for all they input. Hurley, the reason i am...   Feb 17, 2008 - 12:03 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Feb 17, 2008 - 5...   Feb 19, 2008 - 12:12 AM
- - hurley97   Call WebCams and tell them that, they will find a ...   Feb 17, 2008 - 12:15 PM
- - Bitter   another good power adder for your midrange (dont k...   Feb 17, 2008 - 12:33 PM
- - jason   i think dustin's dyno shows a little if any ga...   Feb 17, 2008 - 12:42 PM
- - Bitter   actually from what i've seen the 7afe holds pe...   Feb 17, 2008 - 12:49 PM
- - 94celicadude   I have been contemplating doing the cam regrind, a...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:26 AM
|- - Brightside   Interesting project you have here Matt. I'm ...   Feb 18, 2008 - 1:45 PM
|- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(Brightside @ Feb 18, 2008 - 6...   Feb 18, 2008 - 9:55 PM
- - Bitter   stock CR for the 7afe is about 9.5:1 so 1/2 a poi...   Feb 18, 2008 - 11:30 PM
- - 94celicadude   After a lot of thought and a lot of being told tha...   Feb 19, 2008 - 5:27 PM
- - 94celicadude   Great news all! i had a first start last nig...   Feb 25, 2008 - 3:21 PM
- - 94celicadude   Here is a link to the video, please ignore everyth...   Feb 25, 2008 - 3:58 PM
- - 95st-celica   thats awesome man....good luck with everything and...   Feb 25, 2008 - 4:33 PM
- - zero07   Nice job! Engine looks great!   Feb 25, 2008 - 5:58 PM
- - stephen_lee   7AGTE time   Feb 25, 2008 - 10:04 PM
- - 94celicadude   well so far, turbo is out of the picture, more lik...   Feb 25, 2008 - 10:47 PM
- - 94celicadude   Well i finally got the car home, about 1 week ago,...   Mar 6, 2008 - 7:14 PM
- - hurley97   I don't think it's a machine shops respons...   Mar 6, 2008 - 7:26 PM
|- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(hurley97 @ Mar 7, 2008 - 12:26...   Mar 6, 2008 - 8:03 PM
- - hurley97   only reason I said that was because [in general] m...   Mar 6, 2008 - 8:32 PM
- - lagos   Get yourself some UV dye and a black light. Add it...   Mar 6, 2008 - 9:15 PM
- - 94celicadude   well i think i was a bit harsh on my usage of word...   Mar 7, 2008 - 1:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEit is not only a machine shop but a performan...   Mar 7, 2008 - 1:44 AM
- - hurley97   I agree with Art. That was also why I told my oil ...   Mar 7, 2008 - 8:10 AM
- - 94celicadude   thanks to both Lagos and Hurley for the props, i ...   Mar 31, 2008 - 5:44 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE(94celicadude @ Mar 31, 2008 - 6...   Mar 31, 2008 - 9:15 PM
- - stephen_lee   this is exciting!   Mar 31, 2008 - 8:13 PM
- - 94celicadude   well, the more i drive the car, to more it is kind...   Apr 2, 2008 - 2:22 PM
- - Bitter   so whats the good word?   Apr 7, 2008 - 7:17 PM
- - Bitter   so what ended up happening? no news is good news?   Apr 24, 2008 - 7:35 PM
- - 94celicadude   Hey all! sorry there has not been any updates...   May 4, 2008 - 9:41 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE (94celicadude @ May 4, 2008 - 10...   Sep 17, 2008 - 7:16 PM
- - Bitter   hows the compression look?   May 5, 2008 - 10:59 AM
- - o0black0o   Not worth it.. I fully set up my 7afe and I got pi...   May 5, 2008 - 1:02 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(o0black0o @ May 5, 2008 - 1:02...   May 5, 2008 - 1:33 PM
- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(o0black0o @ May 5, 2008 - 6:02...   May 5, 2008 - 1:43 PM
- - Bitter   cool, i hope that solves your issue.   May 5, 2008 - 2:42 PM
- - DEATH   94Celicadude: This info straight from a very exper...   May 5, 2008 - 3:34 PM
|- - 94celicadude   QUOTE(DEATH @ May 5, 2008 - 8:34 PM)...   May 6, 2008 - 1:44 AM
- - DEATH   Sh*t I read 2000 miles somehow - yeah that is abno...   May 6, 2008 - 6:35 AM
- - 94celicadude   Well i fixed my oil consumption problem, i just ho...   May 9, 2008 - 5:23 PM
- - 94celicadude   Sorry for the bad quality picture, my scanner sux....   May 9, 2008 - 5:32 PM
- - 94celicadude   Well here it comes back from the dead... again Af...   Sep 15, 2008 - 11:05 PM
- - slow_yota   Read the whole thread...Hope all is well and you g...   Sep 15, 2008 - 11:55 PM
- - 94celicadude   will do. Thanks for the support, i hope to finall...   Sep 16, 2008 - 9:16 PM
- - Bitter   damn, i wonder what failed? just ****ty machine s...   Sep 16, 2008 - 9:23 PM
- - 94celicadude   well either the machine shop bored the block out b...   Sep 17, 2008 - 12:26 AM
- - Bitter   are you burning coolant? i'm sort of wondering...   Sep 17, 2008 - 9:18 PM
- - 94celicadude   no there is no coolant being burned. The head gask...   Sep 19, 2008 - 12:48 PM
- - 7afe_carina   **Waking up the dead** And then the thread just e...   Nov 15, 2017 - 5:08 PM


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