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post Mar 11, 2008 - 9:37 PM
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so i need some help on this one today my girlfriend was driving my celica, it ran fine all day until she stopped and shut the car off for 15 minutes , she gets back in and the car wont start, just cranks over. after about five minutes bam the car starts and runs fine. She get its back here and i take a look at it . its running fine no knock. purring like it always does. so i shut it off, and guess what happened 20 minutes later . wont start . so i wait about a minute try again and it starts up. so i pop the hood and start looking around to see what going on. I found that the spark plug wires had **** the bed so changed them. then i decided to change the oil. and i found metal particles in the oil. mad.gif kindasad.gif
Could these to things be related and what could be the metal in the oil. keep in mind the cars oil pressure never drops below 25 psi when running, it has no knock what so ever. and it idle at round 5-700 rpm.
it sounds to me like im chewing up a rod bearing, or main bearing, but it dosent show any other symptoms but these .
Sean

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post Mar 16, 2008 - 2:20 PM
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Usually if it's rod bearing particles, it would be a pasty swirl in the oil and not hard tiny particles. The rod bearing metal is a babbitt metal that quickly pastes up in an engine. Sometimes there's residue in the oil pan and sometimes there is not. I would watch the oil pressure guage like a hawk though and if it starts to run low and the engine fights to stay on at idle then turn it off and DONT try to start it again...tow it before you blow the engine cause that's definitely rod bearing or bearings even.



I used to run synth. oil (and I can easily afford it, thanks) but I don't anymore...it was explained to me that first, we aren't running nascars here and second, it just allows more crap to stay in the synth. oil longer because there's more mileage between oil changes. Just get the regular oil like Castrol GTX and change faithfully every 3K.

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another thing, only 4k into a fresh engine you will have more metal in the oil because the rings are still seating into the bores, it wont be truely worn in for about another 6000 miles. yes, it really takes an engine THAT long to wear in completely. after the initial 10 to 15 thousand miles wear levels off, until then its sill seating things and wearing things into place.



I would have to say the most "crucial" term for engine break-in is the first 20 miles of driving at different speeds because that's when the rings make their first chicken scratches on the cyl-walls and make the guidelines for the rest thereafter.

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- blckcelica95   metal in oil and now other things   Mar 11, 2008 - 9:37 PM
- - rjbibeau   shouldn't it be like 40-50 psi.....someone cor...   Mar 11, 2008 - 9:46 PM
- - Bitter   what did the particles look like? tiny sparkles? f...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:01 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 12, 2008 - 3:01 A...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:06 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(blckcelica95 @ Mar 11, 2008 - 10...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:24 PM
- - rjbibeau   when your driving it should be near 80's   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:13 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(rjbibeau @ Mar 12, 2008 - 3:13...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:16 PM
- - rjbibeau   sorry i meant to say it peaks at 80....does your o...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:20 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(rjbibeau @ Mar 12, 2008 - 3:20...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:23 PM
- - blckcelica95   there was a fair amount coming out, but it was ...   Mar 11, 2008 - 10:27 PM
- - jesterwr217   when that happened in my old ford probe the engine...   Mar 11, 2008 - 11:11 PM
- - blckcelica95   so i popped the pan off this mourning, and to my s...   Mar 12, 2008 - 10:15 AM
- - rjbibeau   it's fine in the car just don't move the c...   Mar 12, 2008 - 11:22 AM
- - 97GTinKC   If it has only 4000 miles since re-build, I'd ...   Mar 13, 2008 - 9:44 AM
- - speedfeen   This happened to me once in my 6 my engine was sl...   Mar 13, 2008 - 10:10 AM
- - blckcelica95   so i was talking to a couple people about oils a...   Mar 14, 2008 - 9:34 AM
|- - 97GTinKC   QUOTE(blckcelica95 @ Mar 14, 2008 - 7...   Mar 14, 2008 - 11:35 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE(blckcelica95 @ Mar 14, 2008 - 9...   Mar 14, 2008 - 11:53 AM
|- - 97lestyousay   QUOTE(DEATH @ Mar 14, 2008 - 9:53 AM...   Mar 17, 2008 - 8:11 PM
- - playr158   synthetic oil isn't abrasive...its better at L...   Mar 14, 2008 - 11:38 AM
- - lagos   change your oil like the mechanic said and keep an...   Mar 14, 2008 - 1:02 PM
- - Bitter   another thing, only 4k into a fresh engine you wil...   Mar 14, 2008 - 8:22 PM
- - 6G96GT   Usually if it's rod bearing particles, it woul...   Mar 16, 2008 - 2:20 PM
- - Bitter   most crucial, yes for sure. but for upto 10K mile...   Mar 16, 2008 - 2:44 PM
- - celicast3sgte   this is getting rediculous the rumors that are out...   Mar 16, 2008 - 4:29 PM
- - Bitter   i've heard the opposite about synths and break...   Mar 16, 2008 - 4:38 PM
- - blckcelica95   i have changed the oil 3 time since the motor was...   Mar 16, 2008 - 7:50 PM
- - blckcelica95   so here is my newest issue and since it may have ...   Mar 17, 2008 - 6:58 PM
- - Bitter   so you're getting a misfire under boost., corr...   Mar 17, 2008 - 7:34 PM
- - blckcelica95   13-12 range i have recorded the issue on my data ...   Mar 17, 2008 - 7:37 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE(blckcelica95 @ Mar 17, 2008 - 7...   Mar 17, 2008 - 9:09 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(Bitter @ Mar 18, 2008 - 2:09 A...   Mar 17, 2008 - 9:39 PM
- - Bitter   eh, 10 to 11:1 is rich, but not soo rich it should...   Mar 17, 2008 - 9:48 PM
- - blckcelica95   i will take another log tomorrow. the timing o...   Mar 17, 2008 - 10:08 PM
- - 6G96GT   Here's some ideas...leaky ecu?? Improper A/F (...   Mar 20, 2008 - 8:26 PM
|- - blckcelica95   QUOTE(6G96GT @ Mar 21, 2008 - 1:26 A...   Mar 20, 2008 - 8:29 PM
- - Bitter   that'll do it. under boost you need ALL of th...   Mar 20, 2008 - 8:47 PM


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