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post Mar 18, 2008 - 3:59 PM
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Well, some of you may know (mostly the bodymen and automotive painters) that by January 1st, 2009, Waterbourne paint is going to be introduced to Canada to replace our Urethane Bases (color). This is not yet written in stone, but when the law passes EVERYONE will have to change their shops way of cleaning, disposing, spraying, and drying methods for the new Waterbourne Paint.

The reason why they are changing it is du eot High VOC's. Car Manufacturers produce the MOST VOC's in the world. You know whos next? The bodyshops!

Now some are against it and some are for it.

Most are against it because they believe that old technology is the way and always will be. The one thing that they see, against all others is the fact that they will have to pay to change their booth. A down-draft booth with enough air, flow can be converted, others have to be replaced due to lack of air flow. Therefore, you will no longer see back yard shops painting vehicles.

I just have to say that I was present at a seminar to introduce Waterbourne paints with BASF's Glasurit 90 Line Waterbourne Paint, yesterday. IT WAS NUTS! The guy can have a whole car flashed in 2-3 minutes! Thats nuts! Their primers can be left forever and be sanded without screwing up. You can wait a month if u wanted before you put clear on. The paint matches are better, it lays better, easier to spray, not as time consuming as Urethane, and there are endless possibilities. Now nothing will change with the paint. Pearls, metallics, and flakes can be used still. To clean the gun, you shoot distelled water through it, thats it! The guy smudged his finger ont he paint before it flashed and with the second coat, YOU couldnt even see his smudge! It takes 2 layers to complete a paint job. One mist coat, one heavy coat and one 1/2 coat. The 90 Line, doesnt even Smell! Safer for the techs to paint too. Air flashes it. Thats why u need better airflow and the nozzles that dissipate air better.

I can go on with this for days! This is the best innovative way for paint with less VOC!

Now before I go asking for oppinions, I want to say that California has been using Waterbourne paints for a while. Over seas in Europe have been suing them since the 80's! So its been around. If anyone has sprayed share with me ur experiances. I am very excited to see it come here. The legislation just has to pass the law then EVERYONE has to change. ANd by the way for those in the states, besides Cali, by 2010, the States will have to make this change too. So its coming no matter if you like it or not!

Whats your pros and cons on the subject....be great to hear about them!



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post Mar 18, 2008 - 7:45 PM
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Advantages; yes, i see them.

However, i have to stick up for the little guy. it sounds as if "Backyard" shops will have to close due to the fact that they cannot afford the change. What kind of price difference are we talking here?

Secondly, "Old timers" (my self included) are not big on change; and can be set in their (our) ways. When you KNOW how to do something one way, it is an insult and a slap in the face to say that our material isnt good enough, because that's saying our job isnt good enough. Farther more, it feel as if someone is telling them (us) that any jack-off with a can and a gun can do better than the years of experience that they've (i've) occurred over the years. And we say to p!ss off... lol.

Now i'm not knocking this paint, i'm just saying that maybe it should be a gradual change. Not an "over-night, do it my way or dont do it at all" kinda change.

Feen, i know that's not in your power, just my .02 cents...

But i'm happy to know that even for an old trade like painting, there is still such a jive and a want to better ourself and our technology. I will deff. have to look into this; and see if i'm to join this band-wagon. biggrin.gif

Good job Feen, Keep up the good work. Keep us (me) informed. I'm excited to know how it all works out.

And you can paint my car too, it needs a new coat biggrin.gif

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