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post Mar 31, 2008 - 11:02 PM
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hey whats up guys, i got a 94 st liftback w/ a blown 7afe. i have made my swap choice, due to availability of funds it looks like my best bet is the 4age 20v silvertop. i know the black top has more power blah blah, but i think i will be ok with the silver. here's my delima, im new to dallas and have no shop to work out of. im pretty mechanically inclined and feel confident in doing this swap myself but i lack a cherry picker. i've spoke to intercrew performance down the road and the end price is around 3,000 which includes motor, install and tune. which to be honest sounds rediculous to me. he says 1200 for engine, 1500 for labor and 300 for harness. here's what im thinking........ hoping to find fellow 6gc buddy to help me out with removal and install. i found a 4age 20v for about 850 with 6 month warrenty and free shipping. so far best deal i've seen. As far as removal of 7afe, are there any snags or tricks to ease this process as well as any problems i might encounter. Now the big ?'s. ....... i've been doing quite a bit of research about the install, i plan on sending my harness to Dr. Tweak once i get the engine, so with that said and no one having to remind me of that, if i cant get the tranny with the engine, how well will my 7a drivetrain work? i know i need to lengthen throttle cable, no problem doing that.

what other problems may i encounter and is there anyone in dallas area whom has a facility that wouldnt mind lending/renting to me to do this. any and all feedback appreciated.
 
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post Apr 9, 2008 - 1:12 AM
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alright everyone, appreciate all the support and information.

heres where i am at right now.

still looking for right engine for right price, looking for 4age silver top, maybe black top if price is right. going to be purchasing around the 15th of this month, i have to wait till at least then due to appt at VA Hospital the 14th to see if my dissability has gotten worse and they will be doing test and what not so i have to wait until i am able to do the work. wont be able to see right for a week after i leave.
i went to aviation electronics school while in the navy and i am now feeling pretty confident i could doin the wiring conversion myself after looking at the 4age and 7afe diagrams, i mean all you have to do is wire the 4age harness up to existing 7afe connectors right? i am looking a 4age w/ or w/out tranny since 7afe will work, plus mine only has 90k miles on it, but i need the engine complete otherwise. i am looking to be in the 700-950 range w/ shipping. maybe 1100 but yeah, all i save goes into upgrades smile.gif
i possibly will be making the trip to hometown and might start pulling 7afe out of car just to get out of way. even if i have to tear it down to remove withouth a hoist, which i think would be fun so i could see the rod i threw lol. so any tips on removing 7afe hit me up, i posted link in previous post with some pretty good instructions, take a look and let me know


oh and darth, i spoke w/ someone at jhot imports and all they have is black tops which would be fine but they are asking 1200 if i come pick it up, lil to steep in my opinion compared to other prices i've been comparing with shipping. i didnt speak w/ johnathan though so.... we'll see, as i said earlier my purcharse time frame is between now and the 15th-16th of this month, however if i come across the right deal i will go ahead and snag it ya know, so if anyone knows where to get a good jdm silvertop let me know, i've looked everywhere online and so far the best deal i have found is from canada w/ shipping is cheaper than buying and doing a local pick up.

again i love this site, been on here for years, forgot my old log in lol. newayz thanks everyone for your input and support.

all feedback, insight or just shootin the breeze please post.

oh and darthripley, a celica is a celica in my opinion, so whenever we get a texas meet organized i want to see as many cars and faces as possible.

update, i need help locating paseo throttle cable not sure what year but yeah, i need it, i think i finally found the engine, 850 w/ shipping everything but ecu, but found some ecu's on ebay and other place for reasonable prices



Billy B.

This post has been edited by 94stONmotegis: Apr 9, 2008 - 3:46 PM

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- 94stONmotegis   in dallas, need help with swap   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:02 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   u can re use ur tranny,but i believe everything el...   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:07 PM
- - 94stONmotegis   lol you believe huh? well i believe in a lot of th...   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:26 PM
- - Havok1997GT   i dont think many people on this Site have done th...   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:43 PM
- - 94stONmotegis   well thank you havok, good idea, i've seen a ...   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:50 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE(94stONmotegis @ Mar 31, 2008 - 11...   Mar 31, 2008 - 11:56 PM
- - 94stONmotegis   i could get the car to houston but i would have to...   Apr 1, 2008 - 12:12 AM
- - goferris   i know of 2 people on the site that have done this...   Apr 1, 2008 - 1:07 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   i sent netrata a message and we'll see what he...   Apr 1, 2008 - 1:38 AM
- - JDM_Factory   why not do a 3vz swap instead of the 4age? I can g...   Apr 1, 2008 - 2:14 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   i plan on doing all/most work myself so 4age seams...   Apr 1, 2008 - 2:20 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   also, you are doing the 3vz right now into an mr2 ...   Apr 1, 2008 - 2:33 AM
- - JDM_Factory   I'll hit you up on YIM tonight.   Apr 1, 2008 - 11:01 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   just something might help me along the way while d...   Apr 1, 2008 - 12:02 PM
- - 94stONmotegis   bump   Apr 2, 2008 - 1:50 PM
- - netrata   Hey 94stONmotegis, check your pm. Sorry but I won...   Apr 2, 2008 - 8:35 PM
- - Kwanza26   Any 4AGE will drop in. With the 20V motors, you c...   Apr 4, 2008 - 12:37 PM
- - darthripley   i hope you have a toyota bgb or a chiltons/haynes ...   Apr 5, 2008 - 8:17 PM
- - Havok1997GT   where did all you Texas people come from? thats 3...   Apr 7, 2008 - 3:47 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   ALRIGHT!!!! thanks for all the in...   Apr 7, 2008 - 6:11 PM
- - Havok1997GT   when you get it running, get your ass to Houston s...   Apr 8, 2008 - 5:36 PM
- - darthripley   QUOTE(Havok1997GT @ Apr 7, 2008 - 3...   Apr 9, 2008 - 12:46 AM
- - 94stONmotegis   alright everyone, appreciate all the support and i...   Apr 9, 2008 - 1:12 AM
- - darthripley   unfortunately all they have at jhot right now are ...   Apr 10, 2008 - 9:02 PM
- - 94stONmotegis   thanx for the help darth, i called jhot and spoke ...   Apr 11, 2008 - 1:36 AM
- - darthripley   i don't know what 5spd tranny came with the 7a...   Apr 11, 2008 - 12:11 PM


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