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post Mar 14, 2008 - 7:18 PM
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I've been planning on turboing my st for a while now, got all the parts, but after going through all the costs with parts and labor I've come to a total of $3100, which I think is waay too much for 40-50hp (If even that). I wouldnt be getting much horsepower, plus risk damaging the engine, and say goodbye to the toyota reliability. So Im thinking now of just swapping in a 4agze, Ive been reading up alot about this and what i wanna know is why people think its such a difficult swap and that only few people have attempted it? Ive gone through this with a mechanic at toyota dealership that I work at. And he too says its the most simplest of swaps. All i really need is the engine,ecu,wiring harness,4age flywheel with using my 7afe tranny and same motor mounts. Thats pretty much it, unless I put in FMIC, but I've heard they benefit more from TMIC. The 4agze from the Levin from has about 170hp at stock psi (7psi) and at full boost (14psi) it should reach around 190hp or more with some pulleys and an safc. Plus another advantage would be that this engine was built to handle boost so its alot more safe than a 7afte. This mechanic has a 88 corolla gts with the 4agze and an mr2 4agze and they are faast. So I just wanna hear some thoughts on this. thanks

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post Mar 29, 2008 - 8:39 PM
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Everyone I have asked says use the large port head for a turbo build
from what that shows, I don't see why. The small port comes stock
with bigger injectors, and makes more power than the large port.
To me that says better flow.


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post Apr 14, 2008 - 11:59 AM
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QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Mar 29, 2008 - 6:39 PM) [snapback]659605[/snapback]

Everyone I have asked says use the large port head for a turbo build
from what that shows, I don't see why. The small port comes stock
with bigger injectors, and makes more power than the large port.
To me that says better flow.


think of it this way when you port and polish a head for more flow you widen it
the big port head is bigger by like 25% stock to stock with the same port
so when you turbo and you want all the flow you can get so starting the big port is the way to go

now this all depends on your power goals
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http://www.billzilla.org/4agstock.htm


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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte

Posts in this topic
- mikecelica   4AGZE Swap   Mar 14, 2008 - 7:18 PM
- - JoKeRkId613   it is simple. a lot of people just prefer the 3s. ...   Mar 14, 2008 - 8:02 PM
- - mikecelica   I tried searching around but had no luck, are ther...   Mar 14, 2008 - 8:46 PM
- - mikecelica   any thoughts?   Mar 15, 2008 - 6:22 PM
- - airfron   here is an informative thread on a swap that Dr_Tw...   Mar 15, 2008 - 8:09 PM
- - Hanyo   swaping a 4agze is not a bad idea, considering the...   Mar 15, 2008 - 8:56 PM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Heres my .02... Spend the money you'll be...   Mar 15, 2008 - 10:51 PM
- - mikecelica   With a cusco pulleys the 4agze can make up to 14ps...   Mar 15, 2008 - 11:45 PM
- - jason   stevenson and i were talking about this swap... i...   Mar 18, 2008 - 2:14 AM
- - creis   I've been toying with the idea of going for a ...   Mar 18, 2008 - 2:55 AM
- - Culpable04   the swap is not " bad " for a ST, some p...   Mar 18, 2008 - 10:45 PM
|- - 97lestyousay   Do you have a link to the 4agte I would really lik...   Mar 19, 2008 - 11:38 PM
- - Culpable04   I can look for it, I'm also trying to get some...   Mar 20, 2008 - 6:24 AM
- - Culpable04   youtube dyno run toymods discussion I haven...   Mar 20, 2008 - 2:50 PM
- - ILuvMyCelica95   I have to say I'd LOVE to see someone do this ...   Mar 21, 2008 - 8:14 PM
- - Culpable04   The only thing holding me back right now is that I...   Mar 21, 2008 - 9:45 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   3100$ for turboing????wat are ur prices for v...   Mar 22, 2008 - 1:37 AM
- - jason   thats 3100 with a new engine and all parts to swap...   Mar 22, 2008 - 3:13 AM
- - jesterwr217   where would i be able to pick up JUST the 4agze en...   Mar 23, 2008 - 6:12 PM
- - monkey   it was in various cars from 86-95... i believe it ...   Mar 23, 2008 - 6:48 PM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE(monkey @ Mar 23, 2008 - 7:48 P...   Mar 23, 2008 - 6:50 PM
- - Culpable04   you want a complete swap kit, not just the engine,...   Mar 23, 2008 - 6:55 PM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Mar 23, 2008 - 7...   Mar 23, 2008 - 7:34 PM
- - Culpable04   in your particular case that wouldn't make muc...   Mar 23, 2008 - 7:50 PM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE(Culpable04 @ Mar 23, 2008 - 8...   Mar 23, 2008 - 8:01 PM
- - Culpable04   4AGZE turbo write up !   Mar 23, 2008 - 9:02 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Thats a really good write up. The intake he used ...   Mar 28, 2008 - 4:22 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Mar 28, 2008 - 4...   Mar 29, 2008 - 3:08 PM
- - 97lestyousay   Everyone I have asked says use the large port head...   Mar 29, 2008 - 8:39 PM
|- - nik   QUOTE(97lestyousay @ Mar 29, 2008 - 6...   Apr 14, 2008 - 11:59 AM
- - Culpable04   I would use a small port because of the MAP, and y...   Mar 29, 2008 - 10:14 PM
- - mikecelica   I was wondering if we wanted to swap a 4agze into ...   Apr 13, 2008 - 1:38 PM
|- - mikecelica   QUOTE(mikecelica @ Apr 13, 2008 - 6...   Apr 15, 2008 - 7:14 PM
- - Culpable04   you'll be missing ( not exactly the same items...   Apr 16, 2008 - 11:16 AM
- - Zeros2   http://www.fnfmotors.ca/JDM-Engine-4A-GZE-...fnf-t...   Dec 27, 2008 - 6:10 PM
- - Stambo   I've been reading up on this swap for awhile a...   Dec 29, 2008 - 1:20 AM
- - soulshadow   ahh back from the dead posts... Anyways, if your 7...   Dec 29, 2008 - 1:59 AM


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