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post Apr 26, 2008 - 4:59 AM
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Bored and was browsing the web and got me thinking.

What is toyota's best naturally aspirated engine? What has the most tuner support? This doesnt nessary need to fit into our celica that is why its off topic.

So far what i read about is the 2jzge with intake vvti which makes around 220 hp.


 
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post Apr 26, 2008 - 11:14 AM
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2JZGE!? 1/3UZ!? Not even close.

If by "best" you mean most powerful n/a motor, then you have to measure it by HP per liter. There's only 3 motors that come to mind.

Blacktop Beams 3SGE, rated around 200hp out of 2 liters... Blacktop 20V rated around 160hp out of 1.6 liters, and the 2ZZGE rated at 180-190hp out of 1.8 liters. No other Toyota 4 banger can touch these...

As far as V6's go... the new GR series is by FAR the best (V6) toyota has ever built. Excellent fuel economy, great power, excellent torque curve, lightweight.

As for V8's... IS-F... nothing else (toyota) comes close.


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post Apr 28, 2008 - 5:55 AM
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well the main reason i asked this is because i was comparing engines.

like the 2zzge apears to be toyota's solution for the All motor fans.

But there doesn't seem like there is support for them.
I would say the 2zzge competitor is the B18c5 engine ( integra type R).

But when you look more into it, the B18c5 gets more upgrades and other mods that can make it push out more hp. While the 2zzge seem stuck.

Next step would to be "choose a different engine"

Black top beams 2 liter 3sge. smile.gif ~210 hp

Again honda puts out the 2.1 liter f22c, a new engine with more uptoday technology making 237hp.

it seems hopeless (or atleast not cost efficent) to get a rev happy toyota engine..... frown.gif

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- Hanyo   Toyota's best naturally aspirated engine   Apr 26, 2008 - 4:59 AM
- - jason   4age - older, but stood the test of time, best eng...   Apr 26, 2008 - 5:08 AM
- - MaskedMan   I believe the blacktop 3sge is one of their better...   Apr 26, 2008 - 5:12 AM
- - MercuryFree   1uzfe/3uzfe   Apr 26, 2008 - 6:29 AM
- - Kwanza26   2JZGE!? 1/3UZ!? Not even close. If by...   Apr 26, 2008 - 11:14 AM
|- - Hanyo   well the main reason i asked this is because i was...   Apr 28, 2008 - 5:55 AM
- - saleeka   I'm hoping we see more motors from Toyota with...   Apr 26, 2008 - 12:57 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2008 - 12:1...   Apr 26, 2008 - 1:04 PM
- - jazzcornet   im a diehard 3s fan, but i would have to say the 4...   Apr 26, 2008 - 8:56 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 1...   Apr 26, 2008 - 9:18 PM
- - xs94st   wtf is a 4aeg.   Apr 26, 2008 - 9:40 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE(xs94st @ Apr 26, 2008 - 4:40 P...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:18 PM
- - jazzcornet   4a denotes the block code. the 4 tells you that it...   Apr 27, 2008 - 4:41 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 2...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:14 PM
- - xs94st   i dont think there is a 4aeg. toyota had 4a-e...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:35 PM
- - jazzcornet   im not going to do your homework if you dont belie...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:08 PM
- - Culpable04   I'm not a engine savy but everything I find se...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:32 PM
- - jazzcornet   ^^ i stand corrected. i found a few sites that had...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:43 PM
- - 808celica   AHHhhh!!! too much numbers and letters...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:06 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 8...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:13 PM
- - vincent_doggy   I luv my 3seg engine... but red top beams 3seg by ...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:53 PM
- - Akimbo   4age   Apr 28, 2008 - 3:04 AM
- - GriffGirl   So not to jack the thread, sorry if it's a thr...   Apr 28, 2008 - 12:39 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   simple, 20 valve 4a-ge 2zzge 1gz-fe (5 litre v12 ...   Apr 28, 2008 - 6:55 PM
- - Celicaguy13   The 2zz-ge is the best toyota n/a 4 cylinder produ...   Jul 29, 2008 - 3:37 PM
- - shortydragon   7A-FE!!! no? damn, nevermind...   Jul 29, 2008 - 4:08 PM
- - Celicaguy13   Lol 7afe isnt even the best gas saver motor.   Jul 31, 2008 - 1:42 AM
- - Taskbot   3M Haha in all seriousness everybody is right, h...   Aug 4, 2008 - 1:12 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   If we're talking about any size of engine, the...   Aug 4, 2008 - 1:42 PM
- - GriffGirl   No, I have no problems getting laid! That wa...   Aug 4, 2008 - 4:29 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 9:2...   Aug 4, 2008 - 4:50 PM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 5:2...   Aug 4, 2008 - 5:21 PM
- - GriffGirl   Well of COURSE I'm gonna listen to Tweak. He h...   Aug 4, 2008 - 5:25 PM
- - aflacattack   for power and everything revolving around it... wi...   Aug 4, 2008 - 7:15 PM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 5:2...   Aug 5, 2008 - 8:44 AM
- - 95CelicaST   By far the 4A-GE 20v. You all haven't experien...   Aug 5, 2008 - 10:13 AM
- - Celicaguy13   The blacktop 3sge is so freakin rare, you can...   Aug 6, 2008 - 12:43 AM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Aug 6, 2008 - 1...   Aug 6, 2008 - 9:06 AM
|- - 95CelicaST   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 6, 2008 - 7:06 ...   Aug 6, 2008 - 12:53 PM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Aug 6, 2008 - 12...   Aug 7, 2008 - 10:08 AM


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