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post Apr 29, 2008 - 4:16 PM
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My main reason for this thread is to get an answer to these questions but I'd also like to hear from people who have experience and/or are running off an aftermarket ECU on their 3S-GTE's.

My Motor: 93' JDM GT4 3S-GTE [2nd Gen] *possibly RC edition cause CT-26 is the JDM Ceramic - yes I know this means nothing but it's possible - will find out soon into this discussion*
Mods are listed in my profile but it's basically stock with upgraded to:
8.8:1 Pistons
ARP Head Studs
HKS Metal Headgasket
HKS Turbo Timer
Blitz Blowoff Valve
Front Mount Intercooler
Custom Welded IC Piping
APEX'i Induction Kit/Filter
AFM/3" Intake/Turbo Inlet [minimal bend]
Custom Full 2.5" DP/BP
3" Magnaflow High Flow Cat
GReddy SP2 Catback Exhaust
Kirkasaurus Poly Motor Mounts
NGK Iridium Spark Plugs
MSD 8.5" Superconductor Wires
MSD Blaster 2 Coil
ACT Stage 2 Clutch
TRD quickshifter kit
TRD Boost Gauge
KOYO Racing Radiator

And I have an SAFC-II from my last Celica that is already setup to drop right in my new car and it does have various preset tunes built in for the various ECU's.

Goals:
Daily Driven [not really but built for]
Retain/enhance the Celica's already legendary handling [Ie. no drag racing setups]
275-300WHP/300WTq
Reliability/Engine Safety
Easily Adjustable Boost Levels for DD/Track/Just messing around - basically 3 levels 10PSI/12PSI/15[+?]PSI
Stock Turbo
Fairly civilized demeanor with low RPMS/Monster-ish when pushed hard
Low 13's consistantly on GOOD street tires
NO ECU's that require all adjustability to be done on computer/dyno [I want some options - SAFC-II's dual saves and easy adjustment is acceptable to me]

Questions:
1. What are the available P/N's for ECU's [both MR2 and Altrac/GT4] for 2nd Gen from market to market: JDM/UKDM/USDM ?
2. Are there P/N's different from market to market: JDM/UKDM/USDM [I assume so since tuning is different]?
3. If there are different P/N's will there be different options or any limitations I may run in to when selecting an aftermarket ECU/Piggyback.
4. And lastely/most importantly should I even bother worrying about another piggyback/standalone ECU when the SAFC-II I already have is perfectly sufficient for my fairly low expectations [or is it? You tell me]

I'm not afraid to upgrade the fuel or timing [seperately from the SAFC-II or integrated into the ECU] like a bit bigger injectors, it'll definetely get a full MSD ignition etc.
One thing I do like about the SAFC-II is the customizable readout and knock response.
What do you guys think? I'm def not trying to build Tufy's car here - just an extremly beautiful and elegant sleeper to make living in a driving intensive spread-the-fcuk-out town/state like Houston/Tx more enjoyable.
Thanks guys.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Apr 30, 2008 - 6:10 AM


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ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]
PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO
SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/
INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports
EXT: WRC/TRD/404
QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM) *
Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.
Slow down Paul Walker.

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post Apr 29, 2008 - 8:22 PM
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MAP-ECU2... End thread.


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post Apr 30, 2008 - 9:33 AM
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QUOTE(WannabeGT4 @ Apr 29, 2008 - 8:22 PM) [snapback]669419[/snapback]

MAP-ECU2... End thread.

You're gonna have to elaborate further on that. Is that a brand/model type or something? I've been researching this for a while and I've never seen this.


Thanks Alltracman - that was very informative [and you will have return PM biggrin.gif ] - especially the part about the JDM Turbo being metallic. Are you absolutely sure about that tho? I've seen numerous places that say the opposite but IDK. This from wiki [for example - 2nd paragraph]:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3s-gte
At any rate, I'll be grabbing the P/n off the ECU within the next couple of days anyway. It is located on the top of the ECU housing IIRC right?

So, ideally if I was to start with a JDM or reflashed ECU and add a piggyback and the right supporting mods and proper dyno tuning I could theoretically reach my goal or close to it? This is [I think] what my plan will be. I just don't want to get too complicated with the ECU and be solely at the mercy of a dyno shop for adjustments.
The low 13's thing is not a big necessity - the safety of my engine and daily driveabilty are far more important to me.

What do you guys think of these?:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Toyota-AEM-...1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...hlink:middle:us


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ENGINE: '93 RC 3S-GTE/WRC CT-20b [18-20PSI]
PERF: TRD/HKS/ARP/NGK/MSD/ACT/Blitz/STRI/APEX'i/TwosRus/GReddy/Magnaflo/KOYO
SUSP: Tein/Bilstein/SusTech/
INT: SS-III SEATS/Toyota Hyper Sports
EXT: WRC/TRD/404
QUOTE (lagos @ Aug 25, 2010 - 10:13 AM) *
Its a safety feature so that people like you don't end up killing themselves or everyone around them.
Slow down Paul Walker.

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