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would u swap or turbo and why?
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post Oct 15, 2003 - 4:53 AM
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ok i just wanted to know what you would do and why?


I say Turbo cause for me that is the best option... I can install the turbo myself in one day once i have all the parts... I'll be able to still pass emissions and if i don't i can just pull the turbo out and make the car N/A again...i'll also be about to get a turbo and the rest of the part for a lot less then i could get a jdm engine... and i'm not out to make crazy hp anything more then 200 is to much for me.. i just want a little more kick then what i already have.

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post Oct 18, 2003 - 3:55 AM
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QUOTE (zipstrips @ Oct 17, 2003 - 4:29 PM)
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he has had bad luck. but the engine problems came from when he had the engine rebuilt before he went turbo.


an coolant leak in a motor that is not obiously from the radiator or radiator hoses 9 times outta 10 is a blown gasket.. usaully the head gasket - which is bad.

Granted it is in a head gaskets nature to go bad... thats what they do.

But It would not surprise me at all if it is a direct result of added boost to a N/A motor.. I have seen the exact thing happen before - if hes lucky he will just had a small little hole in one of the corners of the head gasket and hopefully not too much of the coolant has mixed in to the oil. He will be lucky if the car runs for another 6 months. And I really doubt that he would overlook the fact to redo the head gasket when he had the motor rebuilt.. even moreso if he is talking about takling the job of custom making an intake manifold.

97sccelica I know that you are a fan of the turboed 7a.. hey thats fine but really weight the pros and cons of a project before you start it

theres a hole in a molded line, its just aged. not a boosting related problem...also to stop the turboing an n/a motor, check the sportivo corolla. factor boosted 7afe. the f serise head in the 7a takes the boost fine. as long as the fueling is correct and the intake charge in intercooled i feel there will not be any problems.

http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_...04_toyturbo.htm

http://www.antebellumcovers.com/CharlieCarPics/corolla7afte/

and i did wiegh out the pros and cons.

spent 6 months saving money untill i decided what i really wanted to do.

then spent another 8 months gathering parts and doing further research

then took me 2 months(working only on the weekends) to fabricate everything i needed, test fit things, and check everything 4 times. to get everything installed. and that includes time it took to fix an EGR problem that the toyota dealer kept giving me the run around on suggesting various little parts that cost over $150.

that brings me to the present. got a fully working car with a enough power for me(for a FWD daily driven car) and no problems other than the ones caused by my stupidity with routing the oil return line.

any engine can be turboed and the only reason the CR comes into play is that the higer the CR, the more fuel you will have to pump in to prevent detonation. there are turboed civics and integras everywere, same with corollas with 7afe engines.

and i have said that in the end an engine swap is needed for the best performance and lowest cost.

but with my setup, i doubt i could get all the parts i would need for a tranny swap and a 3sgte front clip for the $1600 or so i have spent.

and if i have to get a smog check, it takes me about 2 hours max to take ALL the parts out.

for my car and my situation, Turbo was the move for me.

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Posts in this topic
- macavely   Swap or Turbo???   Oct 15, 2003 - 4:53 AM
- - Drocay   I voted Swap because I to have a 95 coupe and My e...   Oct 15, 2003 - 7:27 AM
- - doGGy   I voted TURBO, cuz in my case there is practicly N...   Oct 15, 2003 - 7:57 AM
- - sphinx   i say swap. More power and a lot more options on t...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:40 AM
- - 97sccelica   i already turboed my car, lol i did it because of...   Oct 15, 2003 - 1:11 PM
- - Supersprynt   For the money your better off with a swap.   Oct 15, 2003 - 5:45 PM
- - Inferno   Swap. But if you only have a little bit of money,...   Oct 15, 2003 - 6:33 PM
- - Supersprynt   Turbo'in the 5 is going to be almost as expens...   Oct 15, 2003 - 9:51 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Turbo the 5s or 7a and try to break the zombie ef...   Oct 15, 2003 - 10:30 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   - swap why upgrade just a small part of the motor...   Oct 15, 2003 - 10:42 PM
- - Matthew   ^^^ i'm with stupid   Oct 15, 2003 - 10:49 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE ^^^ i'm with stupid for the sake of n...   Oct 15, 2003 - 10:56 PM
- - 97sccelica   http://celica.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?u...c;f=2...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:01 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE I currently have a coolant leak somewhere so...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:05 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE my 2nd motor will be getting some work done ...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:06 PM
- - 97sccelica   he has had bad luck. but the engine problems came...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:15 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE he has had bad luck. but the engine problems...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:28 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   People can we really stop burying the n/a to turbo...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:30 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE People can we really stop burying the n/a to...   Oct 15, 2003 - 11:57 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   First of, no one was talking to just "you...   Oct 16, 2003 - 1:01 AM
- - macavely   Ok boys lets cool down.... both of you have great ...   Oct 16, 2003 - 2:04 AM
- - Komlofske   For the money, your better off with the Turbo   Oct 16, 2003 - 4:11 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE First of, no one was talking to just "y...   Oct 16, 2003 - 1:31 PM
- - macavely   let my cosin have it seeing as it will drop right ...   Oct 16, 2003 - 4:58 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Oct 16, 2003 - 11:31 AM) QUOTE ...   Oct 16, 2003 - 10:43 PM
- - Matthew   ok 5S-FE turbo I think what most people are refer...   Oct 16, 2003 - 11:05 PM
- - 3FingersCelica   I have read that the 4age can be boosted up to 10 ...   Oct 16, 2003 - 11:19 PM
- - 1bwilson   hahaha this is funny. I am doing the 5sfTe my sel...   Oct 16, 2003 - 11:48 PM
- - NEVERSTOP   QUOTE hahaha this is funny. I am doing the 5sfTe m...   Oct 17, 2003 - 12:15 AM
- - 1bwilson   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Oct 16, 2003 - 10:15 PM) Nicely...   Oct 17, 2003 - 12:40 AM
- - NEVERSTOP   yea no prob bryan I knew what you ment   Oct 17, 2003 - 11:58 AM
- - Stipt   My personal opinion, if your goal is around 200HP ...   Oct 17, 2003 - 1:02 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (NEVERSTOP @ Oct 15, 2003 - 9:28 PM) QU...   Oct 17, 2003 - 7:29 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   NEVERSTOP I am apologizing outright. I acted l...   Oct 17, 2003 - 11:51 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (zipstrips @ Oct 17, 2003 - 4:29 PM) QU...   Oct 18, 2003 - 3:55 AM
- - Mynzeyes   rebuild and turbo the 7A kid...we all know the 7af...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:09 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Other than the burien kits acsessories, and interc...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:24 PM
- - Mynzeyes   seeeeeeeeeee:   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:26 PM
- - Mynzeyes   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 18, 2003 - 12:24 PM) O...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:28 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Oct 18, 2003 - 11:28 AM) QUOTE (...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:36 PM
- - zipstrips   QUOTE (5sfeTurbo @ Oct 18, 2003 - 11:36 AM) Q...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:50 PM
- - Mynzeyes   ooooo, nice...um, i'd get that supra fuel pump...   Oct 18, 2003 - 1:50 PM
- - 5sfeTurbo   Thanks much mynzeyes, Ill for sure hook it up. Ano...   Oct 18, 2003 - 2:38 PM
- - 1bwilson   5sfeturbo.....Find me On AIM I am in MD and also t...   Oct 18, 2003 - 3:52 PM
- - 97sccelica   QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Oct 18, 2003 - 10:09 AM) rebuild...   Oct 18, 2003 - 7:23 PM


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