 ST204 3SGTE VS ST205 |
 May 29, 2008 - 11:58 AM
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On a quarter mile at race track X
A ST204 swapped with a 3SGTE 3rd gen + LSD tranny from MR2 (lighter but FWD with LSD) VS A ST205 with a 3SGTE 3rd gen (heavier but AWD) who would normally win? and dont tell me ''well it depends on the driver and blablablablabla''. I'm talking about perfect conditions, who would smoke who? -------------------- |
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May 29, 2008 - 2:24 PM
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BPU swapped FWD would win against a BPU ST205. Weight and drive train loss would be the two major factors in this race.
But this is only at the BPU stage. Once you go past 275-300HP, 205 takes the cake. --------------------  I will return one day. |
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reko ST204 3SGTE VS ST205 May 29, 2008 - 11:58 AM
99GT ST205 owns due to traction. May 29, 2008 - 12:25 PM
ETNRIDER QUOTE (99GT @ May 29, 2008 - 12:25 P... May 29, 2008 - 12:33 PM 808celica yeah i dont even have to think. unless its a bone ... May 29, 2008 - 12:31 PM lagos St205 would be faster in the 1/4 because of awd.
S... May 29, 2008 - 12:43 PM ETNRIDER QUOTE (lagos @ May 29, 2008 - 12:43 ... May 29, 2008 - 12:58 PM GT4KNG QUOTE (lagos @ May 29, 2008 - 1:43 P... May 30, 2008 - 8:39 PM Batman722 I disagree.
Jeff with a 185 in his ran a 13.9 at ... May 29, 2008 - 1:47 PM Insanity-74 QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 7... May 30, 2008 - 2:56 AM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 2... May 29, 2008 - 2:00 PM ETNRIDER Anyone got any vids of a race like this? I doubt i... May 29, 2008 - 2:11 PM lagos QUOTE (Batman722 @ May 29, 2008 - 2... May 29, 2008 - 2:26 PM D-Man but it's still heavier. The AWD gets better tr... May 29, 2008 - 2:29 PM ETNRIDER QUOTE (D-Man @ May 29, 2008 - 3... May 29, 2008 - 2:41 PM lagos QUOTE (D-Man @ May 29, 2008 - 3... May 29, 2008 - 2:39 PM 95celgt The 6th gen celica acually launches like a bat out... May 29, 2008 - 2:50 PM delusionz what the real question is ... is 400 metres really... May 29, 2008 - 11:32 PM j0e_p3t both stock and the fwd with lsd under "perfec... May 30, 2008 - 12:40 AM 3SGTE Im already loading my gt4 st205 awd on a carrier a... May 30, 2008 - 2:50 AM Cuts_the_Pilot stock for stock, or mod for mod 205 will win.
im ... May 30, 2008 - 8:04 AM D-Man QUOTE (3SGTE @ May 30, 2008 - 2:50 A... May 30, 2008 - 8:33 AM creis QUOTE Track was unsuprisingly damp which made for ... May 30, 2008 - 9:01 AM Batman722 QUOTE (creis @ May 30, 2008 - 10:01 ... May 30, 2008 - 12:22 PM ETNRIDER What is an estimate of the weight difference? I wo... May 30, 2008 - 9:02 AM x_itchy_b_x i raced a vr4 when i was a stock 2nd gen. from a d... May 30, 2008 - 9:37 AM devilsden97 QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 10... May 30, 2008 - 11:30 AM ETNRIDER [/quote]
VR4: 3760lbs
gt-4: 3298lbs (converted ... May 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM x_itchy_b_x QUOTE (devilsden97 @ May 30, 2008 - 12... May 30, 2008 - 11:52 AM devilsden97 QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 12... May 30, 2008 - 11:54 AM j0e_p3t not only does the swap fwd have a weight advantage... May 30, 2008 - 1:02 PM devilsden97 honestly there is a very easy solution to this dis... May 30, 2008 - 1:32 PM lagos AWD = Rev to 6k - pop the clutch - WIN. May 30, 2008 - 2:08 PM x_itchy_b_x ^ not with only 255 hp. more jump forward then bog... May 30, 2008 - 2:33 PM lagos QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 3... May 30, 2008 - 2:37 PM x_itchy_b_x ^ agreed.
lagos did i ever tell you that your awe... May 30, 2008 - 2:51 PM lagos QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ May 30, 2008 - 3... May 30, 2008 - 3:00 PM scothaniel I totally agree with Lagos. My swapped 6gc is lig... May 30, 2008 - 3:04 PM Rusty QUOTE 500lbs lighter
so wheres all this extra weig... May 30, 2008 - 6:08 PM lagos QUOTE (Rusty @ May 30, 2008 - 7:08 P... May 30, 2008 - 6:11 PM 97lestyousay QUOTE (lagos @ May 30, 2008 - 4:11 P... Jun 1, 2008 - 1:02 PM reko Damn seems like everyone has their own opinion...
... May 30, 2008 - 6:34 PM Insanity-74 QUOTE (reko @ May 31, 2008 - 12:34 A... May 30, 2008 - 6:45 PM reko QUOTE (Insanity-74 @ May 30, 2008 ... May 30, 2008 - 6:57 PM Rusty QUOTE BTW, in that vid the gt-4 hit a 13.9. And th... May 31, 2008 - 4:22 AM Insanity-74 slightly off topic, but how about a 205 V NSX.
20... May 31, 2008 - 5:07 AM 3SGTE Anyway, back on topic!! Woe Woe Woe are... May 31, 2008 - 12:32 PM reko QUOTE (3SGTE @ May 31, 2008 - 1:32 P... May 31, 2008 - 1:52 PM lubu The driver must have missed a gear or back down... May 31, 2008 - 2:16 PM Insanity-74 Never under estimate a tricked out little Civic. Jun 1, 2008 - 9:54 AM Cuts_the_Pilot whoever thinks 205's weigh 1500 kg is smoking ... Jun 1, 2008 - 10:18 PM 6strngs I think the 205 would win. Jeff's ST185 is a C... Jun 2, 2008 - 1:17 AM 3s-gte_man stock 205 and 204 with stock 205 engine and that m... Jun 2, 2008 - 6:34 AM D-Man QUOTE (Insanity-74 @ May 30, 2008 ... Jun 2, 2008 - 9:22 AM playr158 you can't say because each one is different...... Jun 2, 2008 - 9:55 AM Defgeph The video you posted is not a Celica at all. That ... Jun 2, 2008 - 11:39 AM delusionz We all know the gt-four would get away 1st, but i ... Jun 5, 2008 - 7:24 AM Insanity-74 QUOTE (delusionz @ Jun 5, 2008 - 1:2... Jun 6, 2008 - 10:47 AM DEATH I gotta say, even tho I own a swap, the GT4 will o... Jun 5, 2008 - 8:37 AM 95celgt I hope its not because you still shift the way you... Jun 6, 2008 - 1:41 AM DEATH QUOTE (95celgt @ Jun 6, 2008 - 1:41 ... Jun 6, 2008 - 10:59 AM reko Sweet i just found one for $11,000 Jul 5, 2008 - 2:28 PM pipes sorry to bring up an old thread but i believe a sw... Dec 1, 2008 - 10:26 AM reko QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:26 A... Dec 1, 2008 - 10:56 AM pipes QUOTE (reko @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:56 AM... Dec 1, 2008 - 10:59 AM 99GT Psi doesn't matter. Haha. Dec 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM pipes QUOTE (99GT @ Dec 1, 2008 - 10:43 AM... Dec 1, 2008 - 10:44 AM Terracar I would think the ST205 would win.
For all you gu... Dec 1, 2008 - 11:26 AM Remy For people who don't believe in FWD.
http://w... Dec 1, 2008 - 11:31 AM pipes Still what is stock boost on a 3rd gen Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 AM Nial QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 A... Dec 1, 2008 - 12:32 PM presure2 from a launch, the 4 will grab the lead, and the s... Dec 1, 2008 - 11:54 AM pipes Well I guess we will see in the spring...wich stoc... Dec 1, 2008 - 1:01 PM presure2 QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 1:01 PM... Dec 1, 2008 - 1:59 PM pipes QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 1, 2008 - 2:59... Dec 1, 2008 - 2:12 PM _Jim_ QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 3:12 PM... Dec 1, 2008 - 8:24 PM lagos QUOTE (pipes @ Dec 1, 2008 - 11:43 A... Dec 1, 2008 - 3:13 PM pipes QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 1, 2008 - 4:13 PM... Dec 1, 2008 - 4:03 PM reko Split opinions... you guys arent really helping me... Dec 1, 2008 - 4:58 PM Remy If I had a swapped 3rd gen 3sgte FWD celica even t... Dec 1, 2008 - 6:47 PM presure2 QUOTE (Remy @ Dec 1, 2008 - 6:47 PM)... Dec 1, 2008 - 8:41 PM 6strngs QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 1, 2008 - 5:41... Dec 1, 2008 - 9:13 PM reko Yeah that's what I was thinking too! And a... Dec 2, 2008 - 8:55 AM bringindaheat573 Sorry to revive a kinda old thread but ive noticed... Jan 1, 2009 - 12:38 AM reko QUOTE (bringindaheat573 @ Jan 1, 2009 - ... Jan 1, 2009 - 6:34 PM |
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