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post Apr 21, 2008 - 4:43 AM
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post May 28, 2008 - 2:18 AM
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I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.


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QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 28, 2008 - 12:18 AM) *
I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better this year. I call BS!

Can't a player just get better on their own without owing their success to Kobe?!?

WTH, Bynum's better b/c of Kobe and not b/c he's maturing after being in the league for a few years? Same goes for Farmer, Sasha, etc.

And the fact that Kobe's number were worse than Lebron's or CP3 yet still wins MVP shows how stupid the MVP awards really is. Hornets were 1 game behind the Lakers in standing so you can't say team record played a big role in MVP consideration. Like I said before, if it was based on stats, LeBron would have won it , no contest. Dude average close to a triple double (pts ~30, reb and ast ~8)! That's almost unheard of (only Jordan and Big O achieved these types of numbers). And who's got the crappiest team of these three? LeBron, duh! Too bad the MVP voters are all sheep and only voted for Kobe b/c they felt they "owed" him an MVP for the previous years. Total BS...


Let's see if Cheap-shot Rob and Ankle-breaker Bowen sends Kobe off with a few departing gifts.


I think Paul shoulda been MVP but you still give 70% of the Laker's success to Kobe. He's always carried that team but he struggled when he got all the attention. With Gasol there, that takes pressure off him and Gasol is the PERFECT fit for Jackson's triangle offense. A center that can pass, create shots off the dribble and is a low post threat can do wonders for a star like Bryant. Even stars need that 2nd go to guy..Jordan was good but he could only do so much. It wasnt till they got Pippen when the Bulls started to dominate. Same w/ Kobe. With Kobe the Lakers were good, but with the 1, 2 punch of Bryant and Gasol, they're where the Bulls were about a decade ago. Pierce and Garnett, Jordan and Pippen, Shaq and Penny, Shaq and Kobe, Parker and Duncan, Kobe and Gasol, Carmelo and Iverson, Magic and Kareem, Frazier and King...these teams dominate cuz they had that 1, 2 punch. Then you see players like Lebron James in Cleveland, Chris Paul in New Orleans, that struggle because they dont have that 2nd guy. Once those 2 get that 2nd guy, watch ou t.

Why i say Paul was robbed was simple...He was a 1 man wrecking crew. If the Hornets can land somebody BIG off free agency, whether its somebody like Josh Howard off a trade or some other big man. They'll be a dominant team. David West is a solid player but he's not "that" guy to carry them over the hump.

QUOTE (j0e_p3t @ May 28, 2008 - 12:38 AM) *
the lakers got much better this year. pretty much all of them stepped their game up. i honestly think this is the only season i thought kobe deserved mvp. previous seasons, kobe would force a shot whenever he got doubled (and actually make them most of the time or free throws). but now he passes to the open guy. so the other players wouldn't be getting those easy wide open shots if it weren't for kobe. he's no longer getting 40 points a game, but getting assists in double figures. so yeah, all them other lakers have become better players and an overall better team. but all good teams need a good leader. and that's why kobe got my vote. and btw... 3-1 lakers. like i said in a previous post... lakers over celtics. and kobe getting mvp.


He forced shots cuz he HAD to. Who did he have to rely on??? This is why i say the Gasol trade made their year and made Kobe the MVP. Without Gasol, the Lakers wouldve been eliminated by now and i guarantee Bryant wouldnt have won MVP.

QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 29, 2008 - 11:06 AM) *
Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't want a repeat of last year's lowest rating finals match up. They'll do anything to get Lakers vs Celtics again.

If the roles were reversed, and Lakers were down and Parker bumped Fisher (or Kobe) like that, the call would have been made.

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QUOTE (j0e_p3t @ May 28, 2008 - 2:38 AM) *
3-1 lakers.


That was such a foul. Bad call - no ref had the balls to call it with tenths of a second left. thumbsdown.gif

Video of foul with TNT comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRGHFJlJT3U



Whatever...it was a horrible call but the Lakers dominated the Spurs thorughout the playoffs. I highly doubt that, that wouldve changed the outcome of the entire series.


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- tomazws   Lakers   Apr 21, 2008 - 4:43 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   lol screw the lakers   Apr 22, 2008 - 12:08 AM
- - j0e_p3t   hell yeah. they're going all the way this seas...   Apr 22, 2008 - 2:08 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   no.its gonna be the year of lebron, kobe is over   Apr 22, 2008 - 8:20 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE(j0e_p3t @ Apr 22, 2008 - 3:08 ...   Apr 23, 2008 - 11:11 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   yes ben Wallace is nothing i suppose....   Apr 23, 2008 - 6:33 PM
|- - dustin15brown   QUOTE(CelicaST_CALI @ Apr 23, 2008 - 7...   Apr 23, 2008 - 7:16 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE(dustin15brown @ Apr 23, 2008 - 5...   Apr 23, 2008 - 7:21 PM
- - zero07   3 words......................... GO SPURS GO   Apr 23, 2008 - 7:22 PM
- - j0e_p3t   la all the way. with kobe finally getting mvp.   Apr 24, 2008 - 12:26 AM
- - tomazws   Kobe just put on a show today. Good game!   Apr 24, 2008 - 1:12 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   2-2!!!!   May 11, 2008 - 5:33 PM
- - j0e_p3t   i know... crap. they should've went for the wi...   May 11, 2008 - 5:41 PM
- - goferris   GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!...   May 11, 2008 - 6:11 PM
- - CAMAricer   I hate the Jazz but I hate the Lakers even more......   May 11, 2008 - 6:40 PM
- - 99Celica   lakers FTL   May 11, 2008 - 7:05 PM
- - tomazws   Did you think Kobe ball hogged in overtime? He had...   May 11, 2008 - 11:58 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   in that game it looked like kobe is going downhill...   May 12, 2008 - 1:21 AM
- - SlickRick   Lakers 4TW i remeber some one say that the rocket ...   May 12, 2008 - 4:15 AM
- - zero07   GO SPURS GO....   May 12, 2008 - 11:47 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   hey i said tehy were good i didnt say they were ch...   May 12, 2008 - 6:30 PM
- - chucho   all I want to see is the spurs lose. I hate flopp...   May 13, 2008 - 10:17 PM
- - zero07   GO SPURS GO!   May 13, 2008 - 10:35 PM
|- - chucho   QUOTE (zero07 @ May 13, 2008 - 10:35...   May 13, 2008 - 11:29 PM
- - 99Celica   QUOTE (chucho @ May 13, 2008 - 11:29...   May 13, 2008 - 11:39 PM
- - zero07   Yeah, i watched it. Just cause your team sucked L...   May 14, 2008 - 2:04 PM
- - tomazws   Other than the Pistons, all the teams are having t...   May 14, 2008 - 3:29 PM
- - zero07   No sh*t! Other than the pistons your right the...   May 14, 2008 - 3:35 PM
- - j0e_p3t   wc finals!!!!   May 17, 2008 - 12:25 AM
- - goferris   B@$T@RD$ too bad the jazz sucked it up w...   May 17, 2008 - 12:30 AM
- - j0e_p3t   yeah good game. even though la had a big lead i kn...   May 17, 2008 - 2:13 AM
- - zero07   GO SPURS GO.... 9 TO GO!   May 17, 2008 - 7:59 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   ****ING CELTICs...lol the cavs aren't ready,bu...   May 19, 2008 - 6:02 PM
- - Jared95   Im with you zero .... Go spurs go..... Hornets F...   May 19, 2008 - 6:20 PM
- - 99Celica   QUOTE (Jared95 @ May 19, 2008 - 6:20...   May 19, 2008 - 6:32 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (99Celica @ May 19, 2008 - 4:3...   May 20, 2008 - 11:27 AM
- - zero07   GO SPURS GO! 8 TO GO!   May 19, 2008 - 10:13 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 19, 2008 - 7...   May 20, 2008 - 10:16 AM
- - j0e_p3t   nice try spurs...   May 21, 2008 - 11:14 PM
- - zero07   Its only one game.   May 22, 2008 - 1:29 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   Chris Paul was ROBBED and shoulda won MVP honors. ...   May 26, 2008 - 6:00 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   also phil jackson ^^^^^cant forget the zen mastu   May 26, 2008 - 8:51 PM
- - CAMAricer   I hate how people say Kobe made the Lakers better ...   May 28, 2008 - 2:18 AM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 28, 2008 - 12...   May 29, 2008 - 11:04 PM
|- - CelicaST_CALI   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ May 29, 2008 - 9...   May 29, 2008 - 11:45 PM
||- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 29, 2008 - 10...   May 30, 2008 - 12:07 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ May 29, 2008 - 11...   May 31, 2008 - 10:34 AM
- - j0e_p3t   the lakers got much better this year. pretty much ...   May 28, 2008 - 2:38 AM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE (j0e_p3t @ May 28, 2008 - 2:38...   May 28, 2008 - 9:57 AM
|- - tomazws   QUOTE (snapshotgt @ May 28, 2008 - 7...   May 28, 2008 - 7:23 PM
|- - CAMAricer   Come on, it's so obvious the NBA don't wan...   May 29, 2008 - 1:06 PM
- - j0e_p3t   i have to admit... when i first saw it, i thought ...   May 28, 2008 - 1:27 PM
|- - snapshotgt   QUOTE (j0e_p3t @ May 28, 2008 - 1:27...   May 28, 2008 - 7:40 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   the league admitted that should have been a foul.....   May 29, 2008 - 1:40 PM
- - j0e_p3t   gasol was an extremely valuable addition to the la...   May 29, 2008 - 11:18 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   lol it seems i cant get away from u,im just saying...   May 30, 2008 - 12:09 AM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 29, 2008 - 11...   May 30, 2008 - 12:32 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   you are trying to compare kobe and jordan with nee...   May 30, 2008 - 12:39 AM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 29, 2008 - 11...   May 30, 2008 - 7:10 PM
- - j0e_p3t   ^ have you watched a laker game recently? last sea...   May 30, 2008 - 12:53 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   yea i must say he has become a much better player ...   May 30, 2008 - 12:55 AM
|- - tomazws   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 29, 2008 - 10...   May 30, 2008 - 12:08 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   no kobe can win a game single handedly he just nee...   May 30, 2008 - 7:40 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ May 30, 2008 - 5...   May 30, 2008 - 7:42 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   yes well they are doing very well because they hav...   May 30, 2008 - 7:47 PM
- - CAMAricer   Sorry, but Odom was Laker's MVP last previous ...   May 31, 2008 - 12:57 AM
|- - CAMAricer   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 31, 2008 - 1...   May 31, 2008 - 1:11 AM
|- - j0e_p3t   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ May 30, 2008 - 11...   May 31, 2008 - 3:15 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   it was 6 games, #1 VS #1 i say its gonna be celtic...   May 31, 2008 - 1:03 AM
- - tomazws   I'm a Laker fan, so I don't really care ab...   May 31, 2008 - 3:07 AM
- - CelicaST_CALI   ok Gm. 1: LAL 89, SAS 85 good close game Gm. 2:...   May 31, 2008 - 1:59 PM
- - dustin15brown   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ May 30, 2008 - 8...   Jun 4, 2008 - 5:43 PM
- - tomazws   1st game tooooniiiigggghhhttt!!!!   Jun 5, 2008 - 1:06 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   5:30 on abc ,this will be great   Jun 5, 2008 - 4:42 PM
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- - CelicaST_CALI   YEAAA BOYYYY   Jun 5, 2008 - 10:57 PM
|- - tomazws   QUOTE (CelicaST_CALI @ Jun 5, 2008 - 8...   Jun 5, 2008 - 11:28 PM
- - CAMAricer   Lakers got spanked. Will they respond? Doubt it....   Jun 6, 2008 - 12:13 AM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Jun 6, 2008 - 5:1...   Jun 6, 2008 - 2:04 AM
|- - jcaron9gt4   QUOTE (SlickRick @ Jun 6, 2008 - 3:0...   Jun 6, 2008 - 8:07 AM
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- - jcaron9gt4   That doesnt mean anything? it means that they did...   Jun 6, 2008 - 10:49 AM
|- - CAMAricer   Despite how the Lakers played (good or at their be...   Jun 6, 2008 - 11:41 AM
- - tomazws   The Celtics went on a crazy shooting spree in the ...   Jun 6, 2008 - 11:56 AM
- - SlickRick   it takes 4 to win it not 3 if u win by 10+ and by ...   Jun 7, 2008 - 2:53 AM
|- - CAMAricer   If tonight's reminded me of how a cat will pla...   Jun 9, 2008 - 12:05 AM
|- - tomazws   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Jun 8, 2008 - 10...   Jun 9, 2008 - 12:18 AM
- - Batman722   Paul Pierce. The Celtics leading scorer for the l...   Jun 9, 2008 - 12:28 AM
- - 99Celica   Looks like the faker fans decided to keep their mo...   Jun 9, 2008 - 12:57 AM
- - massbrandon   lol, nice post Dustin   Jun 9, 2008 - 9:32 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   Series is far from being over til the Celtics win ...   Jun 10, 2008 - 9:48 AM
- - j0e_p3t   i have to admit, i am a lil worried after watching...   Jun 10, 2008 - 1:46 PM
- - tomazws   Wow lots of starters were in their off night, from...   Jun 11, 2008 - 12:57 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   What a crap game,peirce was slow,garnett was slow,...   Jun 11, 2008 - 5:58 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   THEY ARE BACK BABY!!!!!we have...   Jun 12, 2008 - 10:12 PM
- - chucho   yeah they blew a big lead.   Jun 12, 2008 - 10:14 PM
- - jcaron9gt4   And that right there, is why the Lakers can not ha...   Jun 12, 2008 - 10:52 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (jcaron9gt4 @ Jun 12, 2008 - 8...   Jun 12, 2008 - 11:10 PM
- - Sh0gunkid8721   wow for somebody that works at ESPN, i shoulda kno...   Jun 12, 2008 - 11:15 PM
- - CAMAricer   So.....anyone here still think the Lakers are stil...   Jun 13, 2008 - 12:13 AM
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