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post Jun 26, 2008 - 8:25 PM
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post Jun 27, 2008 - 4:15 PM
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Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.


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post Jun 27, 2008 - 5:57 PM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4:15 PM) *
Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.



You madam are awesome.

Now, this is very simple. Guns do not kill people, bullets when shot out of that gun kill people, and bullets (normally) dont go off until the trigger is pulled, by (again, normally) a finger that is attached to a human hand. Thus, People kill people. IF not with a gun, then with a knife,bat,hammer,poison,rope,broken bottle,chainsaw, screw driver, bricks.......do i need to go on? It doesnt matter what you do with guns, people will kill people other ways. Atleast with guns the battle is even. and even if there are laws banning guns or making it harder to get them, well drugs are illegal arent they?

There is no solution, but being a good judge of what needs to be done. If i caught a person taking my car, i would not shot him, its a car, i love it, but its not worth a persons life. Now if you in my house, then your to close for comfort and your dead when you turn around. because im not going to give you the chance to think about hurting someone in that house. If you pull a knife on me, you intend to hurt me in a very bad way and maybe kill me, your dead. you want to get into a fist fight with me. we throw down, if i lose, i lose. i dont kill for out of pride. And with that is your solution.

People Have To Think.

Posts in this topic
- alltracman78   Supreme Court Finally Stands Up For Gun Owners   Jun 26, 2008 - 8:25 PM
- - supershannon77   Jeremy it scares me that you no how to use a gun.....   Jun 26, 2008 - 8:34 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Jun 26, 2008 - 9...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:28 AM
|- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:46 AM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 10...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:07 AM
- - FreddyTheOthaMeat   im pretty sure that our forefathers ment something...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:47 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   a gun less society is defenseless against foreign ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:54 AM
- - Jeunesse   yea... but it doesn't mean that it is a peacef...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:58 AM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:34 AM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE it's a USA thing - don't get involve...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:08 PM
- - Jeunesse   polite? that's a polite way of saying it, isn...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:12 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:1...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:19 PM
||- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:39 PM
||- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:3...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:53 PM
|- - purplegt4   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 12...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:46 PM
- - alltracman78   How many of those crimes are committed with illega...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:33 PM
- - DEATH   Jeunesse: Because this entire world is completely ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:37 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:37 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:30 PM
- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (alltracman78 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:54 PM
|- - jcaron9gt4   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:09 PM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:03 PM
- - FreddyTheOthaMeat   geeze i wonder what we did before guns were invent...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:17 PM
|- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (FreddyTheOthaMeat @ Jun 27, 2008 ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:25 PM
- - DEATH   There is no solution. One of these days people are...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:31 PM
- - DEATH   He was being calm - as were we all. Please don...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:50 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:50 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:54 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 3...   Jun 27, 2008 - 3:01 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:01 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 5:52 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 5...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - GriffGirl   Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a...   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:15 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4...   Jun 27, 2008 - 5:57 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (Havok1997GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:05 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 6...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:24 PM
- - DEATH   Well said. Damn no I find myself speechless   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:24 PM
- - laff09   I'd like to chime in on this topic. The reaso...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:17 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (laff09 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4:17 ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 7:07 PM
- - GriffGirl   I just have to throw this in real quick and then I...   Jun 27, 2008 - 7:11 PM
- - Legit94GT   Back to the main topic. The SC ruled in favor of g...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:25 PM
- - Havok1997GT   I dont see an argument forming here, its just a e...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:20 PM
- - Jeunesse   clap clap clap I would like to commend everybody t...   Jun 28, 2008 - 8:14 AM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 28, 2008 - 9:1...   Jun 28, 2008 - 7:28 PM
- - Havok1997GT   guns can keep you from getting killed if your a be...   Jun 28, 2008 - 1:32 PM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 28, 2008 - 9:21 PM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 3...   Jun 28, 2008 - 9:29 PM
- - supershannon77   again Jeremy it scares me that you own a gun...nah...   Jun 28, 2008 - 10:07 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Jun 28, 2008 - 1...   Jun 28, 2008 - 11:29 PM
- - Celiracer18   honestly i think one of the greatest ways to help ...   Jun 29, 2008 - 1:29 AM
- - manphibian   Coming from a country where virtually nobody has a...   Jun 29, 2008 - 5:09 AM
- - supershannon77   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 29, 2008 - 12...   Jun 29, 2008 - 9:48 AM
- - manphibian   ^^^ That however is just ludicrous! How can a...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:08 PM
- - DEATH   Sorry - but I agree with it. If you're a big e...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:14 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 30, 2008 - 5:14 P...   Jul 1, 2008 - 4:15 PM
- - 97Celica   Guns were originally created to hunt for basic sur...   Jun 30, 2008 - 6:26 PM


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