Supreme Court Finally Stands Up For Gun Owners Options

[alltracman78]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080626/ap_on_..._co/scotus_guns

Nice to see

[GriffGirl]

Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.

[Havok1997GT]

Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.

You madam are awesome.

Now, this is very simple. Guns do not kill people, bullets when shot out of that gun kill people, and bullets (normally) dont go off until the trigger is pulled, by (again, normally) a finger that is attached to a human hand. Thus, People kill people. IF not with a gun, then with a knife,bat,hammer,poison,rope,broken bottle,chainsaw, screw driver, bricks.......do i need to go on? It doesnt matter what you do with guns, people will kill people other ways. Atleast with guns the battle is even. and even if there are laws banning guns or making it harder to get them, well drugs are illegal arent they?

There is no solution, but being a good judge of what needs to be done. If i caught a person taking my car, i would not shot him, its a car, i love it, but its not worth a persons life. Now if you in my house, then your to close for comfort and your dead when you turn around. because im not going to give you the chance to think about hurting someone in that house. If you pull a knife on me, you intend to hurt me in a very bad way and maybe kill me, your dead. you want to get into a fist fight with me. we throw down, if i lose, i lose. i dont kill for out of pride. And with that is your solution.

People Have To Think.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.

You madam are awesome.

Now, this is very simple. Guns do not kill people, bullets when shot out of that gun kill people, and bullets (normally) dont go off until the trigger is pulled, by (again, normally) a finger that is attached to a human hand. Thus, People kill people. IF not with a gun, then with a knife,bat,hammer,poison,rope,broken bottle,chainsaw, screw driver, bricks.......do i need to go on? It doesnt matter what you do with guns, people will kill people other ways. Atleast with guns the battle is even. and even if there are laws banning guns or making it harder to get them, well drugs are illegal arent they?

There is no solution, but being a good judge of what needs to be done. If i caught a person taking my car, i would not shot him, its a car, i love it, but its not worth a persons life. Now if you in my house, then your to close for comfort and your dead when you turn around. because im not going to give you the chance to think about hurting someone in that house. If you pull a knife on me, you intend to hurt me in a very bad way and maybe kill me, your dead. you want to get into a fist fight with me. we throw down, if i lose, i lose. i dont kill for out of pride. And with that is your solution.

People Have To Think.

I agree with most of what you said...but i gotta ask you. If you can use all those things as weapons, why do you need to have full possession of a gun? People kill people like you said so whats the purpose of having a gun when in fact people are the only lethal weapons walking the streets. This is according to you.

Its amazing to see so many internet toughies in one place. But you actually were reasonable and rational unlike "death."

[Havok1997GT]

Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a debate about whether people should own guns or not. We had that thread about Obama vs. McCain vs. Hillary et al, so I think those of you who followed that thread know my own political views and know that all in all, I'm pretty left-wing.

The issue at question here should NOT be a matter of whether or not people should or shouldn't have guns as a matter of moral or ethical values. The debate in the Supreme Court IMO should NEVER have even gotten that far, and should've been a slam-dunk. I was SHOCKED that the ruling was 5-4. The job of the Supreme Court is to uphold the United States Constitution, and it is our 2nd Amendment right to keep and bear arms. I suppose the framer's intent could be debated, as the wording of the amendment specifically states "a well-regulated militia". For over 200 years that has included individual citizens of the United States. With the exception of committing a felony, that right should NOT be revoked. Period.

I am honestly and truly embarrassed by the level of sheer stupidity and senseless, deceitful and greed-driven crap that our country has attempted to subjugate the world with these last few years. But I still believe wholeheartedly in the Constitution and I'll be damned if some jackass is going to infringe on those inalienable rights.

You madam are awesome.

Now, this is very simple. Guns do not kill people, bullets when shot out of that gun kill people, and bullets (normally) dont go off until the trigger is pulled, by (again, normally) a finger that is attached to a human hand. Thus, People kill people. IF not with a gun, then with a knife,bat,hammer,poison,rope,broken bottle,chainsaw, screw driver, bricks.......do i need to go on? It doesnt matter what you do with guns, people will kill people other ways. Atleast with guns the battle is even. and even if there are laws banning guns or making it harder to get them, well drugs are illegal arent they?

There is no solution, but being a good judge of what needs to be done. If i caught a person taking my car, i would not shot him, its a car, i love it, but its not worth a persons life. Now if you in my house, then your to close for comfort and your dead when you turn around. because im not going to give you the chance to think about hurting someone in that house. If you pull a knife on me, you intend to hurt me in a very bad way and maybe kill me, your dead. you want to get into a fist fight with me. we throw down, if i lose, i lose. i dont kill for out of pride. And with that is your solution.

People Have To Think.

I agree with most of what you said...but i gotta ask you. If you can use all those things as weapons, why do you need to have full possession of a gun? People kill people like you said so whats the purpose of having a gun when in fact people are the only lethal weapons walking the streets. This is according to you.

Its amazing to see so many internet toughies in one place. But you actually were reasonable and rational unlike "death."

Question 1: Because everyone else is. In a lot of ways yes its adding fuel to the fire, yes its one more gun on the street, yes it makes you just as dangerous as the guy robbing you. But here is the thing, as stated before, you will lose if you take a knife to a gun fight. Most will anyways. And id rather be on even playing ground when confronted with another person with a gun. A friend of mine had the best answer i have ever heard about carrying a gun with you at all times. He is a cop and when he is off duty he carrys his guns with him at all times. When asked "Why do you always carry your guns with you?" he replied," Id rather have it with me and never need it, then not have it and need it"
Question 2: Because although people are the only really weapon on the street, most feel they need help to kill some one. And again, i want the game to be an even match.