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post Jun 26, 2008 - 8:25 PM
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post Jun 28, 2008 - 8:14 AM
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clap clap clap I would like to commend everybody that replied to this thread for it was kept clean, rational and mature...

QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11:53 PM) *
There is no need for car accidents... but by following your "logic" we should just get rid of seat belts and airbags cause we shouldnt need them???


This is not what I meant... Seatbelts and airbags are meant to prevent you from getting more injuries or be killed thus a positive thing, hand guns are not meant to prevent you from being killed. Seatbelts and airbags are solutions/preventions for accidents and hand guns are not solutions for accidents or crime. Got it? again, 2 wrongs don't make it right.

Havok and Griff: Very well said. thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif thumbsup.gif

edit: speaking of prevention for getting killed by a gun, maybe somebody would just invent something like a kevlar that you could use everyday, like incorporate in our daily clothes. biggrin.gif lol a bulletproof brief or thong hahahaha

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post Jun 28, 2008 - 7:28 PM
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QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 28, 2008 - 9:14 AM) *
clap clap clap I would like to commend everybody that replied to this thread for it was kept clean, rational and mature...


QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11:53 PM) *
There is no need for car accidents... but by following your "logic" we should just get rid of seat belts and airbags cause we shouldnt need them???


Sorry dude but its true... we shouldnt need seat belts or airbags, if everyone drove slow and safe. But that isnt how it works, people speed drink and drive and drive poorly, hence the need to protect yourself with those precautions, seat belts and airbags. BUT people do dumb stuff, like rob you, rape you, assault you or anyone around you, you can have alot of precautions for that stuff, never travel alone, stay away from bad areas late at night, take a karate class, or carry/own a gun.

I am sorry if you cant see that as a rational thought.

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This is not what I meant... Seatbelts and airbags are meant to prevent you from getting more injuries or be killed thus a positive thing, hand guns are not meant to prevent you from being killed. Seatbelts and airbags are solutions/preventions for accidents and hand guns are not solutions for accidents or crime. Got it? again, 2 wrongs don't make it right.


Airbags kill people. Seat belts kill people.

My friend died in highschool becuase he wore his seat belt when he was in a car accident... they are supposed to help you but sometimes that isnt how it works out. Same can go for a gun. When you used properly they can protect you, and put food on your table, but when used improperly or illegally they can kill you or someone else...

Guns are a tool. Used to hunt and to protect ourselves and our country. that is a pretty positive thing if you ask me...


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You madam are awesome.

Now, this is very simple. Guns do not kill people, bullets when shot out of that gun kill people, and bullets (normally) dont go off until the trigger is pulled, by (again, normally) a finger that is attached to a human hand. Thus, People kill people. IF not with a gun, then with a knife,bat,hammer,poison,rope,broken bottle,chainsaw, screw driver, bricks.......do i need to go on? It doesnt matter what you do with guns, people will kill people other ways. Atleast with guns the battle is even. and even if there are laws banning guns or making it harder to get them, well drugs are illegal arent they?

There is no solution, but being a good judge of what needs to be done. If i caught a person taking my car, i would not shot him, its a car, i love it, but its not worth a persons life. Now if you in my house, then your to close for comfort and your dead when you turn around. because im not going to give you the chance to think about hurting someone in that house. If you pull a knife on me, you intend to hurt me in a very bad way and maybe kill me, your dead. you want to get into a fist fight with me. we throw down, if i lose, i lose. i dont kill for out of pride. And with that is your solution.

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I agree with most of what you said...but i gotta ask you. If you can use all those things as weapons, why do you need to have full possession of a gun? People kill people like you said so whats the purpose of having a gun when in fact people are the only lethal weapons walking the streets. This is according to you.


IF i may chime in here... If you got into a situation where the the people/person you were fighting pulled out a knife on you, or a metal pipe, or a bat or....... i would rather pull out a gun. NOTE i did not say i would shoot them, but in most cases when someone pulls out a gun everyone kinda stops what they are doing, and then you can get out of a bad situation.

Watch the movie Pretty Women, there is a great scene where they are getting hassaled by like 3 or 4 people some wiht knives, his bodygaurd just flashes his gun and everyone kinda stops and goes away... granted its a movie, but i think that would be pretty true to forum...


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Posts in this topic
- alltracman78   Supreme Court Finally Stands Up For Gun Owners   Jun 26, 2008 - 8:25 PM
- - supershannon77   Jeremy it scares me that you no how to use a gun.....   Jun 26, 2008 - 8:34 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Jun 26, 2008 - 9...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:28 AM
|- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:46 AM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 10...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:07 AM
- - FreddyTheOthaMeat   im pretty sure that our forefathers ment something...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:47 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   a gun less society is defenseless against foreign ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:54 AM
- - Jeunesse   yea... but it doesn't mean that it is a peacef...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:58 AM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 11...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:34 AM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE it's a USA thing - don't get involve...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:08 PM
- - Jeunesse   polite? that's a polite way of saying it, isn...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:12 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:1...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:19 PM
||- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1...   Jun 27, 2008 - 12:39 PM
||- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:3...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:53 PM
|- - purplegt4   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 12...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:46 PM
- - alltracman78   How many of those crimes are committed with illega...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:33 PM
- - DEATH   Jeunesse: Because this entire world is completely ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:37 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:37 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:30 PM
- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (alltracman78 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2...   Jun 27, 2008 - 1:54 PM
|- - jcaron9gt4   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:09 PM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:03 PM
- - FreddyTheOthaMeat   geeze i wonder what we did before guns were invent...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:17 PM
|- - Jeunesse   QUOTE (FreddyTheOthaMeat @ Jun 27, 2008 ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:25 PM
- - DEATH   There is no solution. One of these days people are...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:31 PM
- - DEATH   He was being calm - as were we all. Please don...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:50 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 1:50 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 2:54 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 3...   Jun 27, 2008 - 3:01 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:01 P...   Jun 27, 2008 - 5:52 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 5...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:02 PM
- - GriffGirl   Wow, I'm shocked that this thread has become a...   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:15 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4...   Jun 27, 2008 - 5:57 PM
|- - Sh0gunkid8721   QUOTE (Havok1997GT @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:05 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 6...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:24 PM
- - DEATH   Well said. Damn no I find myself speechless   Jun 27, 2008 - 4:24 PM
- - laff09   I'd like to chime in on this topic. The reaso...   Jun 27, 2008 - 6:17 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (laff09 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 4:17 ...   Jun 27, 2008 - 7:07 PM
- - GriffGirl   I just have to throw this in real quick and then I...   Jun 27, 2008 - 7:11 PM
- - Legit94GT   Back to the main topic. The SC ruled in favor of g...   Jun 27, 2008 - 10:25 PM
- - Havok1997GT   I dont see an argument forming here, its just a e...   Jun 27, 2008 - 11:20 PM
- - Jeunesse   clap clap clap I would like to commend everybody t...   Jun 28, 2008 - 8:14 AM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 28, 2008 - 9:1...   Jun 28, 2008 - 7:28 PM
- - Havok1997GT   guns can keep you from getting killed if your a be...   Jun 28, 2008 - 1:32 PM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Jeunesse @ Jun 27, 2008 - 2:5...   Jun 28, 2008 - 9:21 PM
- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Sh0gunkid8721 @ Jun 27, 2008 - 3...   Jun 28, 2008 - 9:29 PM
- - supershannon77   again Jeremy it scares me that you own a gun...nah...   Jun 28, 2008 - 10:07 PM
|- - Legit94GT   QUOTE (supershannon77 @ Jun 28, 2008 - 1...   Jun 28, 2008 - 11:29 PM
- - Celiracer18   honestly i think one of the greatest ways to help ...   Jun 29, 2008 - 1:29 AM
- - manphibian   Coming from a country where virtually nobody has a...   Jun 29, 2008 - 5:09 AM
- - supershannon77   QUOTE (Legit94GT @ Jun 29, 2008 - 12...   Jun 29, 2008 - 9:48 AM
- - manphibian   ^^^ That however is just ludicrous! How can a...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:08 PM
- - DEATH   Sorry - but I agree with it. If you're a big e...   Jun 30, 2008 - 5:14 PM
|- - Havok1997GT   QUOTE (DEATH @ Jun 30, 2008 - 5:14 P...   Jul 1, 2008 - 4:15 PM
- - 97Celica   Guns were originally created to hunt for basic sur...   Jun 30, 2008 - 6:26 PM


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