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post Apr 26, 2008 - 4:59 AM
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Bored and was browsing the web and got me thinking.

What is toyota's best naturally aspirated engine? What has the most tuner support? This doesnt nessary need to fit into our celica that is why its off topic.

So far what i read about is the 2jzge with intake vvti which makes around 220 hp.


 
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post Aug 6, 2008 - 9:06 AM
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QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Aug 6, 2008 - 1:43 AM) *
The blacktop 3sge is so freakin rare, you can't even get info for that thing. From what i've seen so far though, it's a good motor. But I guess since i've owned a 2zz celica.. I'm addicted to Lift haha

BTW Here's a 20v mr2 vs a stock Corolla 2zz.
20v mr2 vs corolla XRS

And here is a 2zz mr2 on the dyno
Mr2 2zz dyno

And another
mr2 2zz

Haha sorry guys.. I think this engine sounds sweeet.


the 2ZZ is awesome but there's just something about the 20V 4A.

I don't care how much of a bitch they are to tune, I love ITBs.


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post Aug 6, 2008 - 12:53 PM
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QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 6, 2008 - 7:06 AM) *
QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Aug 6, 2008 - 1:43 AM) *
The blacktop 3sge is so freakin rare, you can't even get info for that thing. From what i've seen so far though, it's a good motor. But I guess since i've owned a 2zz celica.. I'm addicted to Lift haha

BTW Here's a 20v mr2 vs a stock Corolla 2zz.
20v mr2 vs corolla XRS

And here is a 2zz mr2 on the dyno
Mr2 2zz dyno

And another
mr2 2zz

Haha sorry guys.. I think this engine sounds sweeet.


the 2ZZ is awesome but there's just something about the 20V 4A.

I don't care how much of a bitch they are to tune, I love ITBs.

They're not hard to tune at all. If you've got a Blacktop it'll run open ITB's all day because the MAP sensor is tapped into the throttle body just before the butterfly valve. It pulls accurate readings without any problems. Silvertop uses AFM, so that is a pain, unless you get BT electronics and convert to MAP. I know the local Toyota place in Washington has adapter plates with the lines already tapped to make it all pain-free, but it's pricey.

And the 2ZZ might br faster, but just because it's faster doesn't mean it's better. ITB's have this note to them that sounds so beefy. You can hear each cylinder firing off in the low RPM's. You don't get that from any other setup.


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Posts in this topic
- Hanyo   Toyota's best naturally aspirated engine   Apr 26, 2008 - 4:59 AM
- - jason   4age - older, but stood the test of time, best eng...   Apr 26, 2008 - 5:08 AM
- - MaskedMan   I believe the blacktop 3sge is one of their better...   Apr 26, 2008 - 5:12 AM
- - MercuryFree   1uzfe/3uzfe   Apr 26, 2008 - 6:29 AM
- - Kwanza26   2JZGE!? 1/3UZ!? Not even close. If by...   Apr 26, 2008 - 11:14 AM
|- - Hanyo   well the main reason i asked this is because i was...   Apr 28, 2008 - 5:55 AM
- - saleeka   I'm hoping we see more motors from Toyota with...   Apr 26, 2008 - 12:57 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Apr 26, 2008 - 12:1...   Apr 26, 2008 - 1:04 PM
- - jazzcornet   im a diehard 3s fan, but i would have to say the 4...   Apr 26, 2008 - 8:56 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 1...   Apr 26, 2008 - 9:18 PM
- - xs94st   wtf is a 4aeg.   Apr 26, 2008 - 9:40 PM
|- - 808celica   QUOTE(xs94st @ Apr 26, 2008 - 4:40 P...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:18 PM
- - jazzcornet   4a denotes the block code. the 4 tells you that it...   Apr 27, 2008 - 4:41 PM
|- - MaskedMan   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 2...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:14 PM
- - xs94st   i dont think there is a 4aeg. toyota had 4a-e...   Apr 27, 2008 - 7:35 PM
- - jazzcornet   im not going to do your homework if you dont belie...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:08 PM
- - Culpable04   I'm not a engine savy but everything I find se...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:32 PM
- - jazzcornet   ^^ i stand corrected. i found a few sites that had...   Apr 27, 2008 - 8:43 PM
- - 808celica   AHHhhh!!! too much numbers and letters...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:06 PM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE(jazzcornet @ Apr 27, 2008 - 8...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:13 PM
- - vincent_doggy   I luv my 3seg engine... but red top beams 3seg by ...   Apr 27, 2008 - 11:53 PM
- - Akimbo   4age   Apr 28, 2008 - 3:04 AM
- - GriffGirl   So not to jack the thread, sorry if it's a thr...   Apr 28, 2008 - 12:39 PM
- - Cuts_the_Pilot   simple, 20 valve 4a-ge 2zzge 1gz-fe (5 litre v12 ...   Apr 28, 2008 - 6:55 PM
- - Celicaguy13   The 2zz-ge is the best toyota n/a 4 cylinder produ...   Jul 29, 2008 - 3:37 PM
- - shortydragon   7A-FE!!! no? damn, nevermind...   Jul 29, 2008 - 4:08 PM
- - Celicaguy13   Lol 7afe isnt even the best gas saver motor.   Jul 31, 2008 - 1:42 AM
- - Taskbot   3M Haha in all seriousness everybody is right, h...   Aug 4, 2008 - 1:12 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   If we're talking about any size of engine, the...   Aug 4, 2008 - 1:42 PM
- - GriffGirl   No, I have no problems getting laid! That wa...   Aug 4, 2008 - 4:29 PM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 9:2...   Aug 4, 2008 - 4:50 PM
- - DEATH   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 5:2...   Aug 4, 2008 - 5:21 PM
- - GriffGirl   Well of COURSE I'm gonna listen to Tweak. He h...   Aug 4, 2008 - 5:25 PM
- - aflacattack   for power and everything revolving around it... wi...   Aug 4, 2008 - 7:15 PM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Aug 4, 2008 - 5:2...   Aug 5, 2008 - 8:44 AM
- - 95CelicaST   By far the 4A-GE 20v. You all haven't experien...   Aug 5, 2008 - 10:13 AM
- - Celicaguy13   The blacktop 3sge is so freakin rare, you can...   Aug 6, 2008 - 12:43 AM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Celicaguy13 @ Aug 6, 2008 - 1...   Aug 6, 2008 - 9:06 AM
|- - 95CelicaST   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Aug 6, 2008 - 7:06 ...   Aug 6, 2008 - 12:53 PM
- - Taskbot   QUOTE (95CelicaST @ Aug 6, 2008 - 12...   Aug 7, 2008 - 10:08 AM


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