Toyota's best naturally aspirated engine, what is it? Options

[Hanyo]

Bored and was browsing the web and got me thinking.

What is toyota's best naturally aspirated engine? What has the most tuner support? This doesnt nessary need to fit into our celica that is why its off topic.

So far what i read about is the 2jzge with intake vvti which makes around 220 hp.

[Taskbot]

The blacktop 3sge is so freakin rare, you can't even get info for that thing. From what i've seen so far though, it's a good motor. But I guess since i've owned a 2zz celica.. I'm addicted to Lift haha

BTW Here's a 20v mr2 vs a stock Corolla 2zz.
20v mr2 vs corolla XRS

And here is a 2zz mr2 on the dyno
Mr2 2zz dyno

And another
mr2 2zz

Haha sorry guys.. I think this engine sounds sweeet.

the 2ZZ is awesome but there's just something about the 20V 4A.

I don't care how much of a bitch they are to tune, I love ITBs.

They're not hard to tune at all. If you've got a Blacktop it'll run open ITB's all day because the MAP sensor is tapped into the throttle body just before the butterfly valve. It pulls accurate readings without any problems. Silvertop uses AFM, so that is a pain, unless you get BT electronics and convert to MAP. I know the local Toyota place in Washington has adapter plates with the lines already tapped to make it all pain-free, but it's pricey.

And the 2ZZ might br faster, but just because it's faster doesn't mean it's better. ITB's have this note to them that sounds so beefy. You can hear each cylinder firing off in the low RPM's. You don't get that from any other setup.

You know what? You're right, it probably is easy to tune (if you have a blacktop). But in all honesty when I think of the 20V I always think of the Silvertop. Sometimes I even forget the Blacktop exists. The Blacktop always seems unattainable to me so I don't even consider it as a swap in my Celica especially since I will never have the money to get one AND if I did I'd rather have an AE111.

But when it comes to engines without an ITB setup already, I hear its a HUGE pain in the ass. (or a good time, if you're someone who likes to tweak **** )