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post Aug 10, 2008 - 1:11 AM
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hey well i just want to get some of ur opinions about ur car puffing out blue somke? What could the be cause rite now i have no clue why my car is doing that?
leave me some comments on it if you can help me figure it out...thanks
 
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post Aug 23, 2008 - 8:41 PM
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no, seals. the guides are not a seal, the seal seals. the guide is more of a bearing that keeps the valve straight as it travels... its an umbrella type on these toyotas which hardens and does not seal well over time. the valve seal sets down by the spring seat, which is a lower area of the head, so oil pools there when the engine is off. the hot thin oil leaks past the valve seals, down the valve guides, and into the combustion area. if the valves are closed it pools ontop of the intake and exhaust valves, or if the valves are open, it leaks into the combustion chamber.


i dont know how to more clearly explain this, beyond with pictures.


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post Aug 23, 2008 - 9:06 PM
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QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 24, 2008 - 1:41 AM) *
no, seals. the guides are not a seal, the seal seals. the guide is more of a bearing that keeps the valve straight as it travels... its an umbrella type on these toyotas which hardens and does not seal well over time. the valve seal sets down by the spring seat, which is a lower area of the head, so oil pools there when the engine is off. the hot thin oil leaks past the valve seals, down the valve guides, and into the combustion area. if the valves are closed it pools ontop of the intake and exhaust valves, or if the valves are open, it leaks into the combustion chamber.


i dont know how to more clearly explain this, beyond with pictures.


ok i see what u r saying but if its the seals that r bad would it not be burning oil all the time?


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post Aug 24, 2008 - 6:23 PM
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QUOTE (SlickRick @ Aug 23, 2008 - 9:06 PM) *
QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 24, 2008 - 1:41 AM) *
no, seals. the guides are not a seal, the seal seals. the guide is more of a bearing that keeps the valve straight as it travels... its an umbrella type on these toyotas which hardens and does not seal well over time. the valve seal sets down by the spring seat, which is a lower area of the head, so oil pools there when the engine is off. the hot thin oil leaks past the valve seals, down the valve guides, and into the combustion area. if the valves are closed it pools ontop of the intake and exhaust valves, or if the valves are open, it leaks into the combustion chamber.


i dont know how to more clearly explain this, beyond with pictures.


ok i see what u r saying but if its the seals that r bad would it not be burning oil all the time?

no, when the engine is running the oil doesnt collect because the valve train is splashing it all around. but yes, you do burn a little when running all the time, but its such a small amount its not seen in the exhaust color. because it trickles down and collects when the engine is off, thats why you see the puff.


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Posts in this topic
- stryue_19   94 celica st puffing blue smoke   Aug 10, 2008 - 1:11 AM
- - 96bluevert   sounds like your burning oil. Does it happen cont...   Aug 10, 2008 - 10:07 AM
|- - stryue_19   QUOTE (96bluevert @ Aug 10, 2008 - 10...   Aug 21, 2008 - 8:46 AM
- - TerryE   If it's only at start-up, it most likely the v...   Aug 17, 2008 - 11:38 PM
- - GriffGirl   I think this is particularly common with the STs. ...   Aug 21, 2008 - 12:22 PM
- - CelicaGTS94   my 5sfe has been doing it since I bought it. It ha...   Aug 21, 2008 - 1:24 PM
|- - Tigawoods   QUOTE (CelicaGTS94 @ Aug 21, 2008 - 2...   Aug 21, 2008 - 2:27 PM
- - Bitter   its a known issue with MANY engines as they age an...   Aug 21, 2008 - 7:30 PM
|- - stryue_19   QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 21, 2008 - 7:30 ...   Aug 22, 2008 - 5:27 AM
- - Taskbot   I'm going to try the auto transmission fluid t...   Aug 22, 2008 - 12:22 PM
- - slow_yota   Hmm..Question, Mine doesnt puff blue smoke but at ...   Aug 22, 2008 - 12:52 PM
- - Taskbot   I think it might be the same thing. I'm almost...   Aug 22, 2008 - 1:12 PM
- - Bitter   its going into your engine, so it doesnt really ma...   Aug 22, 2008 - 9:02 PM
- - Remy   QUOTE (stryue_19 @ Aug 22, 2008 - 5...   Aug 22, 2008 - 9:12 PM
|- - slow_yota   QUOTE (slow_yota @ Aug 22, 2008 - 12...   Aug 23, 2008 - 6:55 PM
- - Bitter   nah, you dont need to change again within 200 mile...   Aug 22, 2008 - 11:43 PM
- - Por2geezcelica   so adding a half quart of ATF to the engine will a...   Aug 23, 2008 - 1:48 AM
- - Bitter   no, its an OLD mechanics trick. trans fluid has a...   Aug 23, 2008 - 8:47 AM
- - Remy   QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 22, 2008 - 11:43...   Aug 23, 2008 - 6:46 PM
- - Remy   QUOTE (slow_yota @ Aug 23, 2008 - 6...   Aug 23, 2008 - 7:29 PM
- - SlickRick   Ok i aint gonna read all the replies but if its on...   Aug 23, 2008 - 7:42 PM
- - Bitter   no valve seals, when the engine is off oil pools...   Aug 23, 2008 - 8:01 PM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 24, 2008 - 2:01 ...   Aug 23, 2008 - 8:08 PM
- - Bitter   no, seals. the guides are not a seal, the seal sea...   Aug 23, 2008 - 8:41 PM
|- - SlickRick   QUOTE (Bitter @ Aug 24, 2008 - 1:41 ...   Aug 23, 2008 - 9:06 PM
|- - Bitter   QUOTE (SlickRick @ Aug 23, 2008 - 9...   Aug 24, 2008 - 6:23 PM
- - Havok1997GT   wait. Blue smoke. Wouldnt that be gas? burning...   Aug 23, 2008 - 9:18 PM
- - Remy   QUOTE (Havok1997GT @ Aug 23, 2008 - 9...   Aug 24, 2008 - 6:59 PM
- - Add45   lol this is weird i have the exact same car and ye...   Sep 3, 2008 - 9:10 PM


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