trade offered to me, what would you do?, 99 Z28 Camero for my celi Options

[bseaman_5]

My buddy wants to get rid of his camero cuz it gets him in trouble and he also can't take his kid around in it and he's wanting to trade straight up. Camero has a rebuilt engine, basically dropped a LS1 engine in it, with a 2006 corvette tranny, shift kit, speed chip, exhaust, t-tops, leater, great condition, practically new tires, only like 40000 on the engine.

My celi has 136000 miles, I've put a header on, custom exhaust, short shifter, CAI, but it has a pretty bad oil leak that I'm trying to figure out and get fixed, going to get 2 new tires put on, interior is pretty good, only torn leather on drivers side should area everything else is great on it.

anyway what would you do?
B.

[Fastbird]

My buddy wants to get rid of his camero cuz it gets him in trouble and he also can't take his kid around in it and he's wanting to trade straight up. Camero has a rebuilt engine, basically dropped a LS1 engine in it, with a 2006 corvette tranny, shift kit, speed chip, exhaust, t-tops, leater, great condition, practically new tires, only like 40000 on the engine.

My celi has 136000 miles, I've put a header on, custom exhaust, short shifter, CAI, but it has a pretty bad oil leak that I'm trying to figure out and get fixed, going to get 2 new tires put on, interior is pretty good, only torn leather on drivers side should area everything else is great on it.

anyway what would you do?
B.

Trade. But some things I'd question first: WHAT transmission is in it? A 2006 Corvette 4L80E will not just drop in place of the 4L60E that came in the Camaro. Speed chip?? Not so much, there's no chip in that car, it uses a reflashable memcal via the ALDL. Things to check for on the car are going to be T-Top leaks, listen for ANY strange noises coming from the rear end (the factory 7.5" 10 bolt rear end is VERY weak and prone to carnage), see if it's burning any oil, some LS1's had this problem. Check the transmission mount, it's a break prone piece too.

But, even with some issues, that's a hell of a straight up trade. THat LS1 will knock down 30 MPG on the highway if you can stay out of it too. Just remember to run premium.

Have you driven it yet? You're gonna love the power of an LS1 but my god the handling is so horrible. Sounds to me like you'd be the one getting the better end of that deal and this is coming from a die hard Celica lover.

Not as horrible as you might think. Those things are good for .87 from the factory. Some very minor suspension mods will put them over 1.0 in a heartbeat.

[DEATH]

Have you driven it yet? You're gonna love the power of an LS1 but my god the handling is so horrible. Sounds to me like you'd be the one getting the better end of that deal and this is coming from a die hard Celica lover.

Not as horrible as you might think. Those things are good for .87 from the factory. Some very minor suspension mods will put them over 1.0 in a heartbeat.

I've driven a '99 Ls1 Camaro pretty regularly for quite a while there and I can tell you won't out handle either my Mom's [Soon to be my brother's] '99 Mustang or my buddies '06 LS2 GTO. I understand where your coming from cause you come from Camaro's and Corvette background but I've always driven Celicas [Including the older RWD ones] so going from one to the other is a pretty noticable difference.
It's not really difference of oppinion but more from perspective.

[Fastbird]

Have you driven it yet? You're gonna love the power of an LS1 but my god the handling is so horrible. Sounds to me like you'd be the one getting the better end of that deal and this is coming from a die hard Celica lover.

Not as horrible as you might think. Those things are good for .87 from the factory. Some very minor suspension mods will put them over 1.0 in a heartbeat.

I've driven a '99 Ls1 Camaro pretty regularly for quite a while there and I can tell you won't out handle either my Mom's [Soon to be my brother's] '99 Mustang or my buddies '06 LS2 GTO. I understand where your coming from cause you come from Camaro's and Corvette background but I've always driven Celicas [Including the older RWD ones] so going from one to the other is a pretty noticable difference.
It's not really difference of oppinion but more from perspective.

I beg to differ about the Camaro being outhandled by the GTO. The Mustang is probably a close match, but the GTO is entirely too sluggish and heavy to come near outhandling the Camaro/Firebird. I have spent a LOT of wheel time behind my friends 05 GTO and there's no way it would out twisty an F-Body, stock for stock.

I think the biggest difference you're feeling going from the Celica to the F-Body/whatever is the weight factor. A fully loaded F-Body can be pretty portly at about 3600lbs, but most come in around 3400-3500ish. That's a SOLID 700-800 lbs heavier than my swapped 99 GT that's loaded up with leather and such. The heavier the car, the worse it's going to feel even though it may actually be handling better. Trust me when I say that, because our Celica feels like it handles better than my Vette even thought I know for a fact it's NOT the case. What I'm feeling is the quick reaction and nimble-ness of the lighter car.