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post Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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I've heard talk of people thinking about it but have never seen any factual attempts. These things need a sixth gear.

I was pondering, and it probably wouldn't be toooooooo terribly difficult to have a bell housing adapter made for something like a 7th gen and then have a custom input shaft in a longer length made.

Are there any other ideas floating around out there?


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post Sep 27, 2008 - 2:49 PM
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QUOTE (dutchboy @ Jun 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM) *
Could you put the e153 5th gear in the ST's C52 tranny or would that cause problems with the synchro?

Would you need to make a custom synhro?

Would love to get the revs down for highway driving.

You may be able to tell that I don't know a lot, just what I want to do smile.gif


Anybody know if you would need a custom synchro if you changed 5th gear?

Is the shaft the same size on c52 and e153?

What about .706 4th gear from the GT Auto transmission? Could this be used for 5th gear in a manual?

Any OEM toyota 5th gears that come under the .713 e153 5th, or .706 GT Auto 4th gear?

The e153 gear would drop the RPMs by 375, which is a good start, a 600 RPM drop would be ideal (engine gets loud after 2800 RPM).


The ST has so much potential for gas mileage, it's just hampered by the gearing (which I believe was designed for Japanese highways, with a 60MPH speed limit).

I am also interested in ride comfort, the engine gets so loud at highway speeds (sometimes I'll wear earplugs!) Would like to improve this factor as well. May be solved by going back to stock airbox w/ the lower resonator box reinstalled.

Posts in this topic
- Fastbird   Six Speed in a 6GC   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
- - WH95TE   Would be neat.   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:50 PM
- - dustinkemp   i think you volunteered yourself lol nah but it w...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - Kwanza26   yeah... but gearing would be very poor for the 5SF...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - gt_driFFter   I don't know if it makes a different, but he d...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:59 PM
- - Fastbird   My reasoning is that on the highway I can't st...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 13, 2006 - 1:08...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:53 PM
|- - o0black0o   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEMy reasoning is that on the highway I can...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:07 PM
- - playr158   you don't need 6 gears... we need taller gears...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:56 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Using the 7th gen GTS tranny would pretty much be ...   Aug 14, 2006 - 9:20 PM
- - j0e_p3t   hasn't anyone tried swapping a 6 speed blackto...   Aug 14, 2006 - 11:16 PM
- - burneeed   theres a guy in ... I think hes somewhere in europ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:01 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yeah, our cars really need a 6th gear or a much lo...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM
- - DEAMON   how much money and who woudl make it the 7th gen...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:15 AM
- - hitcachi   Best solution and fastest way to a 6 speed celica ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM
- - playr158   like i already said someone needs to take the OEM ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41 AM
|- - burneeed   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41...   Aug 15, 2006 - 5:14 PM
- - Fastbird   Does anyone have the gear ratios and final drive r...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:44...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:38 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   id buy a longer finally gear. 80mph at 4k sucks wh...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:57 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(celicaST @ Aug 15, 2006 - 4:38...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:34 PM
- - dutchboy   Could you put the e153 5th gear in the ST's C5...   Jun 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM
- - mandrek   im quite curiouse about this too.. is it not posib...   Oct 10, 2007 - 2:34 AM
- - frosty   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:41...   Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 AM
|- - twitchh17   QUOTE(frosty @ Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 A...   Oct 16, 2007 - 7:09 PM
- - dutchboy   QUOTE (dutchboy @ Jun 28, 2007 - 4:4...   Sep 27, 2008 - 2:49 PM
- - richee3   Man, a 6 speed would be crazy... I'd love to h...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:49 PM
- - Daftboy   I believe that the blacktop 4age 6 speed fits righ...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:58 PM
- - delusionz   i can only think of trying bigger wheels and a spe...   Sep 28, 2008 - 5:09 AM
- - presure2   e135 FTMFBBQ win in the celica, with a swap. 100+M...   Sep 28, 2008 - 1:25 PM
- - 3SGTE-auto   As some of you may or may not know, I plan to mate...   Oct 7, 2008 - 5:26 AM
- - playr158   and how do you plan on controlling said tranny   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:55 AM
- - devilsden97   ^Aussie magic ofcourse....kinda like pix dust. but...   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:58 AM
- - reko   And here comes the solution You are viewing a bra...   Oct 7, 2008 - 9:16 AM
- - Redline08   QUOTE Now Only : USD 2969.77 wow   Oct 7, 2008 - 12:28 PM
- - azian_advanced   i'm surprised C-ONE isn't bankrupt yet... ...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:10 PM
- - GriffGirl   Some day I will have the blacktop w/the 6 speed tr...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:16 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Actually the idea of running larger tires would be...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:28 PM
|- - 3SGTE-auto   Hi all, Reco's post regarding the C-ONE is no...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:32 AM
- - 99GT   QUOTE (3SGTE-auto @ Oct 8, 2008 - 1...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:48 AM
- - CPleasure   Thought I'd bring this sucker back =] was any...   May 5, 2009 - 2:12 AM
- - pittfirefighter   who needs longer gears in the e153!?!? i ...   May 5, 2009 - 3:06 AM
- - playr158   ^110 mph is sloow :shhhhhhh:   May 5, 2009 - 6:14 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 6:14...   May 5, 2009 - 8:11 AM
- - playr158   hey my celica rocked 110mph ..down hill, wit...   May 5, 2009 - 9:29 AM
- - pittfirefighter   still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn...   May 5, 2009 - 12:39 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 5, 2009 - 5...   May 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 12:44 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 1:05 PM
- - 92-gt   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 10:2...   May 6, 2009 - 2:06 PM
- - Draku   I had a lot of fun with my old camry 1991 se 5 spe...   May 8, 2009 - 1:27 AM
- - terbear4god4life   i hit 120..... and woulda keep going if i had ball...   Jun 1, 2009 - 4:52 AM


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