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post Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
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I've heard talk of people thinking about it but have never seen any factual attempts. These things need a sixth gear.

I was pondering, and it probably wouldn't be toooooooo terribly difficult to have a bell housing adapter made for something like a 7th gen and then have a custom input shaft in a longer length made.

Are there any other ideas floating around out there?


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post Oct 7, 2008 - 3:28 PM
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Actually the idea of running larger tires would be the easiest way to do it. With the downside that you increase the overall height of the vehicle, and therefore the center of gravity.

QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 7, 2008 - 1:55 PM) *
and how do you plan on controlling said tranny


We carry the PCS standalone transmission controller, he could use that. They work really nice, plus they all kinds of cool features, like you can add in paddle shifters, have different shift maps that you can swap between, control the shift harshness based on various factors, etc.

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post Oct 8, 2008 - 6:32 AM
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Hi all,

Reco's post regarding the C-ONE is not what I had in mind. The C-ONE conversion for the E153 or E154F will only bring the gear ratios closer together, which is good for racing purposes to keep your RPM in the power-band between gears, but at top gear your RPM will be higher than before the upgrade.

I currently have an A140E mated to my 3S-GTE. It's not known for it's strength, so I've had to set my shiftpoints to occur below 5000RPM on full throttle.

Yes, i purchased a PCS controller to control my transmission. it cost me almost a grand, so it's a bit more than I like. In theory the controller could also control a U660E.

The U660E is from Japan, and has been put in the late model Toyota Aurion and Lexus ES350 here in Australia.

OK, i am "pretty sure" U660E bolts up to the 3S-GTE:

A 3.5 litre 2GR-FE mates to both the U660E in the Aurion and the U151F in the new Highlander (Kluger).
The U151F will mate to the 2GR-FE as well as the 3.3 Litre 3MZ-FE in the old Highlander.
The 3MZ-FE mates to both the U151F and also to the A541E in the Camry.
The A541E is interchangable with the E153.

It is therefore highly likely that the 3SGTE will mate to the U660E. My main concern is actually whether we can create/aquire adequate brackets and mounts to support the trans in the celica engine bay, and also whether the transmission will actually have room to fit inside.


QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Oct 7, 2008 - 4:28 PM) *
Actually the idea of running larger tires would be the easiest way to do it. With the downside that you increase the overall height of the vehicle, and therefore the center of gravity.

QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 7, 2008 - 1:55 PM) *
and how do you plan on controlling said tranny


We carry the PCS standalone transmission controller, he could use that. They work really nice, plus they all kinds of cool features, like you can add in paddle shifters, have different shift maps that you can swap between, control the shift harshness based on various factors, etc.

-Doc


Posts in this topic
- Fastbird   Six Speed in a 6GC   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:38 PM
- - WH95TE   Would be neat.   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:50 PM
- - dustinkemp   i think you volunteered yourself lol nah but it w...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - Kwanza26   yeah... but gearing would be very poor for the 5SF...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:55 PM
- - gt_driFFter   I don't know if it makes a different, but he d...   Aug 12, 2006 - 7:59 PM
- - Fastbird   My reasoning is that on the highway I can't st...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 13, 2006 - 1:08...   Aug 12, 2006 - 8:53 PM
|- - o0black0o   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 12, 2006 - 8:08...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTEMy reasoning is that on the highway I can...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:07 PM
- - playr158   you don't need 6 gears... we need taller gears...   Aug 12, 2006 - 9:56 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Using the 7th gen GTS tranny would pretty much be ...   Aug 14, 2006 - 9:20 PM
- - j0e_p3t   hasn't anyone tried swapping a 6 speed blackto...   Aug 14, 2006 - 11:16 PM
- - burneeed   theres a guy in ... I think hes somewhere in europ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:01 AM
- - Silver94CelicaOwner   Yeah, our cars really need a 6th gear or a much lo...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:35 AM
- - DEAMON   how much money and who woudl make it the 7th gen...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:15 AM
- - hitcachi   Best solution and fastest way to a 6 speed celica ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:39 AM
- - playr158   like i already said someone needs to take the OEM ...   Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41 AM
|- - burneeed   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 1:41...   Aug 15, 2006 - 5:14 PM
- - Fastbird   Does anyone have the gear ratios and final drive r...   Aug 15, 2006 - 7:44 AM
|- - celicaST   QUOTE(Fastbird @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:44...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:38 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   id buy a longer finally gear. 80mph at 4k sucks wh...   Aug 15, 2006 - 9:57 AM
- - Kadett   QUOTE(celicaST @ Aug 15, 2006 - 4:38...   Aug 15, 2006 - 12:34 PM
- - dutchboy   Could you put the e153 5th gear in the ST's C5...   Jun 28, 2007 - 4:41 PM
- - mandrek   im quite curiouse about this too.. is it not posib...   Oct 10, 2007 - 2:34 AM
- - frosty   QUOTE(playr158 @ Aug 15, 2006 - 6:41...   Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 AM
|- - twitchh17   QUOTE(frosty @ Oct 10, 2007 - 8:46 A...   Oct 16, 2007 - 7:09 PM
- - dutchboy   QUOTE (dutchboy @ Jun 28, 2007 - 4:4...   Sep 27, 2008 - 2:49 PM
- - richee3   Man, a 6 speed would be crazy... I'd love to h...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:49 PM
- - Daftboy   I believe that the blacktop 4age 6 speed fits righ...   Sep 27, 2008 - 3:58 PM
- - delusionz   i can only think of trying bigger wheels and a spe...   Sep 28, 2008 - 5:09 AM
- - presure2   e135 FTMFBBQ win in the celica, with a swap. 100+M...   Sep 28, 2008 - 1:25 PM
- - 3SGTE-auto   As some of you may or may not know, I plan to mate...   Oct 7, 2008 - 5:26 AM
- - playr158   and how do you plan on controlling said tranny   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:55 AM
- - devilsden97   ^Aussie magic ofcourse....kinda like pix dust. but...   Oct 7, 2008 - 8:58 AM
- - reko   And here comes the solution You are viewing a bra...   Oct 7, 2008 - 9:16 AM
- - Redline08   QUOTE Now Only : USD 2969.77 wow   Oct 7, 2008 - 12:28 PM
- - azian_advanced   i'm surprised C-ONE isn't bankrupt yet... ...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:10 PM
- - GriffGirl   Some day I will have the blacktop w/the 6 speed tr...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:16 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Actually the idea of running larger tires would be...   Oct 7, 2008 - 3:28 PM
|- - 3SGTE-auto   Hi all, Reco's post regarding the C-ONE is no...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:32 AM
- - 99GT   QUOTE (3SGTE-auto @ Oct 8, 2008 - 1...   Oct 8, 2008 - 6:48 AM
- - CPleasure   Thought I'd bring this sucker back =] was any...   May 5, 2009 - 2:12 AM
- - pittfirefighter   who needs longer gears in the e153!?!? i ...   May 5, 2009 - 3:06 AM
- - playr158   ^110 mph is sloow :shhhhhhh:   May 5, 2009 - 6:14 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 6:14...   May 5, 2009 - 8:11 AM
- - playr158   hey my celica rocked 110mph ..down hill, wit...   May 5, 2009 - 9:29 AM
- - pittfirefighter   still didn't answer my question.. lol i wasn...   May 5, 2009 - 12:39 PM
|- - Kwanza26   QUOTE (pittfirefighter @ May 5, 2009 - 5...   May 6, 2009 - 12:11 PM
|- - Fastbird   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 12:44 PM
|- - alltracman78   QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ May 6, 2009 - 12:1...   May 6, 2009 - 1:05 PM
- - 92-gt   QUOTE (playr158 @ May 5, 2009 - 10:2...   May 6, 2009 - 2:06 PM
- - Draku   I had a lot of fun with my old camry 1991 se 5 spe...   May 8, 2009 - 1:27 AM
- - terbear4god4life   i hit 120..... and woulda keep going if i had ball...   Jun 1, 2009 - 4:52 AM


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