5SFE Block. Old or new?, Going 5SGTE |
5SFE Block. Old or new?, Going 5SGTE |
Oct 19, 2008 - 1:34 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '08 From Colorado Springs, CO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
After doing a bunch of research and deciding with what to do with my set up, I've decided to go 5sgte rather than 5sfte. The reasons should be obvious since I'm going for a performance build.
In recent weeks, I've done a lot of reading and made a few phone calls and found out that there are two versions of the 5sfe block. Great. Now between both Camry's and Celica's, what years are the older version blocks and which ones are the newer versions? -------------------- |
Oct 21, 2008 - 4:15 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '08 From Colorado Springs, CO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I called a few places and asked on several forums and it's apparently very doable and for Camry guys like myself, is cost efficient vs. doing a full 3rd gen5 3SGTE swap.
The two garages I called, EngineLogics and ATS Racing, both said there's a BIG misunderstanding as to how difficult, or should I say easy, the swap is to perform. From the information I have been gathering, the two different blocks are really the same, except some come with a forged crank and knock sensor, and the water jackets will either fit directly (1992-prior) or it will be a hit and miss (1993+ 5sfe). So only a couple hundred dollars of machining out the water jackets and head gasket to match the holes will make them fit. That is directly from machinists who've built and have 5SGTE cars from both of those garages. To answer someone above, the 5SGTE is a 3SGTE cylinder head with a 5SFE block. Some people say that power is less achievable but that's stupid. Simply go to raceeng.com and order a set of 3SGTE/5SFE connecting rods and pistons and install. Reason being that the 5SFE block is better to use is like I said forged crank (for some) and a larger displacement. As well as that it's no different really from a 3SGTE. Everyone knows that. You can easily get those same rods and pistons from raceeng.com and install them in the 3SGTE block and come up with the same bore and displacement, but the stroke may be shorter. The only parts you need to make the head fit (excluding the head gasket issue) are pretty much just the timing belt components, idler pulleys, water/oil pump... The obvious are the map sensor, harness, ecu and such. All in all, I believe it's an easy setup to go with. -------------------- |
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