The Future of Engine Swaps Options

[Dr_Tweak]

I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...

I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc.

2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting...

Discuss!

-Doc

[Dr_Tweak]

they still made gen4 3s's up untill 2004 or something.

i think more cylinders might be the only go if 2zz is out of the picture.

over here TRD has released supercharged hiluxs and Aurions (like camry but awsomer )

The 3SGTE was built all the way up till 2007 actually, so yeah, we'll have a fresh supply of 3SGTE engines for a long time. But the problem of passing OBD2 emissions in all vehicles for the last 12 model years still exists.

I think you might be right about the V6 engines... I just wish there was something better out there!

I love the TC.....How big of a bay does it have?? Any chance of a smaller Lex V8 going into one? Or a 3S-GTE (cliche'd I know, but I love the motor).

Toyota may not be doing much for the performance world, but they've nailed down cars you can drive every day and their sales reflect that.

It's a pretty big bay, a 3SGTE would be a fairly simple swap overall, and a 1UZ FWD... yeah, that could be done

Oh yeah Toyota is doing fine as a business, I just wish they'd take a little step out of the box for a moment and throw us performance guys something to play with

I love the TC.....How big of a bay does it have?? Any chance of a smaller Lex V8 going into one?

No way - it's way smaller than ours length wise and not at all setup for a rear drive axle. I've owned all three now - Good idea tho.

im sure someones gonna try to put a 2jz into a TC if it hasnt already been done...

See above


Doc - did you ever confirm whether the tC's tranny will accept a S series motor? It makes a certain amount of sense if the camry tranny is the same and it can take a v6 like ours then maybe...

I'd love to see an LS2 swapped 6gc/rear wheel drive sleeper [replying to Fastbird made me think of it ] but man would that be one hell of a project.

I'm quite certain that the S-series would bolt up to the tC transmission, yeah.

Doc, you are damn right about the future of Toyota. I've been pondering about that for a while too. Although there are tight swaps for rear wheel drives, not much for front wheel besides a 4ag. Although Toyota is expected to release two top model sport cars, that does not leave it affordable for many which is the lexus supercar and toyota supra replacement. It would be less of an issue if you had a rear wheel drive toyota, many possible options. There are talks about a new celica with a subaru motor but whats up with that? What do you think about the solara v6 swap?

Sorry to burst the bubble, but no new toyota for us.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/28/subaru-...ersion-only-in/

Fine with me, that's not a Toyota anyway. And besides, it's not even turbo!

I've been pushing the Solora V6 swap for a few years now... yeah... I need to do one soon.

-Doc

[njccmd2002]

I've been pushing the Solora V6 swap for a few years now... yeah... I need to do one soon.

-Doc

how much for one OTD. with engine provided?