The Future of Engine Swaps Options

[Dr_Tweak]

I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...

I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc.

2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting...

Discuss!

-Doc

[GriffGirl]

When those Toyotas outlive all the others, you won't be saying they suck! LOL j/p

As for the blacktop - ah, of course, BEAMS blacktop. I knew that, I don't know where my head was. I guess I'm so used to hearing it referred to specifically as a BEAMS blacktop that the actual engine code threw me off. D'oh!

You know, I think that the way automotive engineering is going with everything being so sensor-reliant, it will make swaps much more difficult and is likely to narrow the range of swap-ability, within the confines of mechanical ability at least. Now if there's someone who can hack ECU software and start mating up things differently so they can work together, that might be a different story. But there will just be different challenges now. Our cars will become more and more rare, and while our cars and available swap engines age, the swaps will soon enough be left to those who really know what they're doing, as the engines will have to be rebuilt/refurbished basically to bring them up to like-new. Maybe it'll separate the "men from the boys" as they say.