The Future of Engine Swaps |
The Future of Engine Swaps |
Oct 30, 2008 - 9:09 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 31, '04 From Summerville, SC Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...
I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc. 2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting... Discuss! -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
Oct 31, 2008 - 12:04 AM |
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 29, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
TC's just look and feel so much cheaper on the inside than a 6gc
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Oct 31, 2008 - 3:20 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 7, '07 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 67 (96%) |
TC's just look and feel so much cheaper on the inside than a 6gc I totally disagree. Each year the tC is getting nicer and nicer. The 08s are damn sharp looking, I can't wait to see 09s. I don't think they feel cheaper on the inside, either. And they have nice low-end torque Anyway it's totally gonna be my next car, so I can start that Blacktop 6 speed swap into my celi 3s-ge blacktop though? I thought the blacktop was 4a-ge. There's a 3s-ge blacktop too? hmm.... -------------------- |
Oct 31, 2008 - 4:26 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Jul 27, '06 From Soda Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (91%) |
TC's just look and feel so much cheaper on the inside than a 6gc I totally disagree. Each year the tC is getting nicer and nicer. The 08s are damn sharp looking, I can't wait to see 09s. I don't think they feel cheaper on the inside, either. And they have nice low-end torque i beg to differ my co-worker has one (2006) and the interior is just plain cheap. just knock on the plastic panel on the door and dash and you'll see why newer cars are made like that to shave off weight, i would think so. otherwise, you can't complain about the exterior. i love the looks of the exterior. the interior of the 6th gen celica was very well laid out and i think it's one of the best interiors i've ever been in a car. i guess everyone has different tastes and views of it but whatever lol. anyways, back on topic. i used to love toyota. now i hate toyota. i, for one, am glad that i lived through the 90s to see the import super cars battle (supra, 300zx, rx7, mr2, civic si, 240sx, etc etc). now and days, there aren't much to see. the new models are so bland, especially the new venza. it's just plain ugly. only new toyota i would get is the camry se. otherwise im crawling to nissan & honda. this is the reason why i'm going to buy myself an EM1. there are endless mods and engine swaps. sorry toyota but you suck! This post has been edited by block: Oct 31, 2008 - 4:28 PM -------------------- |
Oct 31, 2008 - 6:32 PM |
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i beg to differ my co-worker has one (2006) and the interior is just plain cheap. just knock on the plastic panel on the door and dash and you'll see why newer cars are made like that to shave off weight, i would think so. otherwise, you can't complain about the exterior. i love the looks of the exterior. the interior of the 6th gen celica was very well laid out and i think it's one of the best interiors i've ever been in a car. i guess everyone has different tastes and views of it but whatever lol. And you are CLEARLY being objective! Unfortunately pretty much all of the newer Toyotas are like that. Anyway, as far as new engines to swap... NONE. Toyota doesn't make money from build sporty cars anymore. They make more money building a few engines and putting them in different packages. But Honda K20s are still nice, the older toyota motors are still cool, etc. There isn't any new Toyota vehicle that I would want to swap in a more performance oriented motor anyway... although a 2ZZ Yaris sedan would be fun. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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