 The Future of Engine Swaps |
 Oct 30, 2008 - 9:09 PM
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I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...
I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc. 2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting... Discuss!  -Doc -------------------- -Dr Tweak, 6GC's resident engine swap wiring expert extraordinaire Click here to see my swaps drtweak@phoenixtuning.com |
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Nov 2, 2008 - 11:54 AM
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QUOTE (Rusty @ Oct 31, 2008 - 4:25 PM)  ^ yup 3S-GE VVTi in +98 SS-II/III are single cam advancement, blacktop is duo.  i'd like to see a blacktop 3SGE 6GC celica...plus turbo?  but theres something aboutthe blacktop fitting in there? head swap?why would you head swap a blacktop Beams? Turboing them isn't too bad at all and yeilds pretty good results but this is the motor I would ideally want in my car...but the fabrication requirements is appearing to be a bit of a pita.... don't know if you could sufficiently use an ST205 rear end or have to go with an IS300 Rear end + Quiffe LSD
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Dr_Tweak The Future of Engine Swaps Oct 30, 2008 - 9:09 PM
bccentaur3 YES!!!! 2zz in a YARIS... When the... Oct 30, 2008 - 10:56 PM Cuts_the_Pilot they still made gen4 3s's up untill 2004 or so... Oct 30, 2008 - 11:41 PM bccentaur3 WHAT??? Thats awesome. I love the new camrys. Oct 30, 2008 - 11:45 PM Fastbird I love the TC.....How big of a bay does it have?? ... Oct 30, 2008 - 11:51 PM gt_driFFter TC's just look and feel so much cheaper on the... Oct 31, 2008 - 12:04 AM
GriffGirl QUOTE (gt_driFFter @ Oct 30, 2008 - 10... Oct 31, 2008 - 3:20 PM block QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Oct 31, 2008 - 3... Oct 31, 2008 - 4:26 PM Kwanza26 QUOTE (block @ Oct 31, 2008 - 10:26 ... Oct 31, 2008 - 6:32 PM gt_driFFter QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Oct 31, 2008 - 5... Nov 5, 2008 - 2:19 AM bslik im sure someones gonna try to put a 2jz into a TC ... Oct 31, 2008 - 12:22 AM DEATH QUOTE (Fastbird @ Oct 30, 2008 - 11... Oct 31, 2008 - 1:17 AM Fastbird QUOTE (DEATH @ Oct 31, 2008 - 1:17 A... Oct 31, 2008 - 11:54 AM enderswift why has toyota allowed itself to stagnate? it seem... Oct 31, 2008 - 2:15 AM blackbullet I've heard of the TC converted to 4WD and that... Oct 31, 2008 - 3:12 AM trdproven Doc, you are damn right about the future of Toyota... Oct 31, 2008 - 5:13 AM njccmd2002 i think the v6 swaps should be the next future gen... Oct 31, 2008 - 5:29 AM RickJamesBish Well, one thing we can look forward to is the poss... Oct 31, 2008 - 9:07 AM Terracar Sorry to burst the bubble, but no new toyota for u... Oct 31, 2008 - 10:21 AM RickJamesBish QUOTE (Terracar @ Oct 31, 2008 - 11... Oct 31, 2008 - 10:52 AM playr158 need to expand past just motor swaps.....lets do d... Oct 31, 2008 - 10:22 AM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Oct 31, 2008 - 5... Oct 31, 2008 - 11:01 AM njccmd2002 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Oct 31, 2008 - 12... Oct 31, 2008 - 2:30 PM playr158 QUOTE (Fastbird @ Oct 31, 2008 - 12... Oct 31, 2008 - 2:15 PM Penkka QUOTE (playr158 @ Oct 31, 2008 - 3:1... Mar 22, 2010 - 1:48 PM Dr_Tweak 3SGE Blacktop, with the 6-speed RWD Tranny? Oh hel... Oct 31, 2008 - 2:20 PM brthrurik BRS Twin-Turbo Tundra Powered RWD xB
"The ti... Oct 31, 2008 - 2:53 PM Rusty ^ yup 3S-GE VVTi in +98 SS-II/III are single cam a... Oct 31, 2008 - 4:25 PM GriffGirl When those Toyotas outlive all the others, you won... Oct 31, 2008 - 5:51 PM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Oct 31, 2008 - 8... Oct 31, 2008 - 9:13 PM block couldn't you put a b-series or something in a ... Oct 31, 2008 - 11:28 PM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (block @ Nov 1, 2008 - 5:28 AM... Oct 31, 2008 - 11:31 PM BonzaiCelica QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Oct 31, 2008 - 11... Nov 1, 2008 - 3:21 AM terqui Its nothing new and its been done before but 2zz i... Nov 1, 2008 - 9:30 AM JDM_Factory I'm starting to standardize my swap primarily ... Nov 1, 2008 - 1:30 PM Rusty QUOTE why would you head swap a blacktop Beams?
be... Nov 3, 2008 - 12:59 AM whatthe just a little offtopic, but if later on down the t... Nov 3, 2008 - 1:28 AM playr158 QUOTE (Rusty @ Nov 3, 2008 - 12:59 A... Nov 3, 2008 - 7:05 AM blu94gt What about a TRD supercharged 2AZ out of a Scion t... Nov 4, 2008 - 5:27 PM 95celgt i want an audi TT motor in a celica, either the AM... Nov 5, 2008 - 12:22 AM Cuts_the_Pilot audi pfft.
20b rotary, T51r turbo, microtech, big ... Nov 5, 2008 - 1:44 AM 95celgt QUOTE (Cuts_the_Pilot @ Nov 5, 2008 - 12... Nov 5, 2008 - 9:06 AM Akirad1 yes rotarys are nice for the torque band but they ... Nov 5, 2008 - 10:42 AM Culpable04 how often do they rebuilt those rotaries ? I have ... Nov 5, 2008 - 4:15 PM Akirad1 QUOTE (Culpable04 @ Nov 5, 2008 - 3... Nov 5, 2008 - 4:23 PM playr158 Rotary engines in RX7s get replaced A LOT....they ... Nov 6, 2008 - 7:43 AM punkuup5150 what about the motor our of the new toyota Aurion
... Nov 6, 2008 - 11:54 AM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (whatthe @ Nov 3, 2008 - 6:28 ... Nov 6, 2008 - 7:57 PM BloodyStupidDavey QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Nov 7, 2008 - 12:5... Nov 7, 2008 - 1:09 AM macavely Forgive me if this point has been touched. Im just... Nov 6, 2008 - 8:08 PM Dr_Tweak That would be a very smart swap for someone with a... Nov 6, 2008 - 9:54 PM Rusty I know that Toyota is not making any performance e... Nov 7, 2008 - 12:19 AM Dr_Tweak Possibility yeah. I'd have to spend some time ... Nov 7, 2008 - 8:55 AM RUNNIN-LOW hey tweak you think? check ebay out that rear end?... Nov 7, 2008 - 8:57 AM Projek_01 no doc, the 323hp is the supercharged version. the... May 31, 2009 - 11:32 PM Cuts_the_Pilot yep tweak that looks like the engine in the trd hi... Jun 1, 2009 - 1:39 AM Rusty if they can drop a toyota V8 & RWD in a ST162,... Jun 1, 2009 - 2:27 AM Hanyo dont they have a toyota camry supercharger? cant y... Jun 2, 2009 - 1:16 AM blu94gt QUOTE (Hanyo @ Jun 2, 2009 - 1:16 AM... Jun 2, 2009 - 5:11 PM BonzaiCelica ya there is a mr2 here in socal witha v6 superchar... Jun 3, 2009 - 12:47 AM soulshadow I think Toyota really cares less about performance... Jun 3, 2009 - 12:50 AM blu94gt QUOTE (soulshadow @ Jun 3, 2009 - 12... Jun 3, 2009 - 12:45 PM Dr_Tweak QUOTE (blu94gt @ Jun 3, 2009 - 1:45 ... Jun 3, 2009 - 12:56 PM Dr_Tweak GM?
(snickers) Jun 3, 2009 - 12:36 PM crankyelbow The v6 swaps are def the way to go... we'd see... Jun 3, 2009 - 1:16 PM playr158 QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Jun 3, 2009 - 1:56... Jun 3, 2009 - 1:29 PM njccmd2002 i thinks v6 would prolly be the best option on the... Jun 3, 2009 - 1:53 PM 97celiman off topic but on the hyundai genesis isnt the v6 v... Jun 3, 2009 - 2:13 PM Fastbird How about a LS2/T-56 and rear wheel drive swap int... Jun 3, 2009 - 2:15 PM playr158 QUOTE (97celiman @ Jun 3, 2009 - 3:1... Jun 3, 2009 - 2:35 PM TRD_Ian there are enough mods and swaps you can do to a 6t... Jun 3, 2009 - 2:39 PM CPleasure I think that because of the fuel economy situation... Jun 4, 2009 - 9:28 AM |
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