The Future of Engine Swaps Options

[Dr_Tweak]

I was thinking this over today and thought that it would be a cool discussion to post up. I'm getting a little concerned about the future of engine swaps. It seems like Toyota hasn't been building ANYTHING high-performance in the last few years. I love our Celicas, but they're coming up on 10 years old for the newest '99 model now. 2nd gen 3SGTE engines are minimum 15-16 years old...

I've been looking at the newer models trying to think of what the next batch of engine swapping is going to be. The 7th gen Celica is already out of production and hasn't gotten a whole lot of love. Of course the 2ZZ is a common swap but that engine never really took real well. 3SGTE into a 7th gen is something I'd like to do some more of, but still, the 3S is getting older. I guess the tC is the next platform to look at, but what to swap into it??? There's practically nothing out there for decent Toyota engines, the 2AZ only makes 160hp. I've sort of been looking at the 300hp 2GR-FSE but it's scary... lots of modern electronics to work around, immobilizer, etc.

2ZZ in a Yaris might be interesting...

Discuss!

-Doc

[punkuup5150]

what about the motor our of the new toyota Aurion

heres a pic i dont meber what the spec are but i beleave they were close to the 3sgte or at leaast in the ballpark



found it

Powertrain Engine Power Torque Transmission
2.0 L 1AZ-FE I4 108 kW (145 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft) 4-speed U241E automatic
2.4 L 2AZ-FE I4 123 kW (165 hp) 224 N·m (165 lb·ft) 5-speed U250E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE V6 200 kW (268 hp) 336 N·m (248 lb·ft) 6-speed U660E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE supercharged V6 241 kW (323 hp) 400 N·m (295 lb·ft)

[Dr_Tweak]

just a little offtopic, but if later on down the track (3 years or so) i might consider a engine swap, how much does it all cost 5grand?. Id be looking into a 3S-GTE. . or just a 3S-GE, could i fit those lexus 2jz beams into our celicas?

After saying all that would it be hard finding a good engine, 3 years down the track or would it become harder and rarer?

Thats all

$5k to $7k yeah. 2JZGE is out of the question for that price range, it would be a lot more expensive.

I wouldn't worry, there should be a steady flow of good engines coming in.

i want an audi TT motor in a celica, either the AMU 1.8T like the one i have or the 3.2 with a supercharger.......they are smooth and easy to mod for nice power, the only downfall is the TT is SOOOOOoo heavy, in a 6gc with 4WD it could be a great car

Eitherway tweak im gonna have you build something truely out of the ordinary in about 2 years, so cook something up by then, and make it either 4wd or RWD

Yeah I don't know about the Audi engine, but we'll fix you up with something real nice when you're ready

what about the motor our of the new toyota Aurion

heres a pic i dont meber what the spec are but i beleave they were close to the 3sgte or at leaast in the ballpark



found it

Powertrain Engine Power Torque Transmission
2.0 L 1AZ-FE I4 108 kW (145 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft) 4-speed U241E automatic
2.4 L 2AZ-FE I4 123 kW (165 hp) 224 N·m (165 lb·ft) 5-speed U250E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE V6 200 kW (268 hp) 336 N·m (248 lb·ft) 6-speed U660E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE supercharged V6 241 kW (323 hp) 400 N·m (295 lb·ft)

Yeah those numbers are without the supercharger.

And the 323hp version is actually the 2GR-FSE if I recall correctly (Lexus IS350 application).

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Nov 6, 2008 - 8:01 PM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

Powertrain Engine Power Torque Transmission
2.0 L 1AZ-FE I4 108 kW (145 hp) 190 N·m (140 lb·ft) 4-speed U241E automatic
2.4 L 2AZ-FE I4 123 kW (165 hp) 224 N·m (165 lb·ft) 5-speed U250E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE V6 200 kW (268 hp) 336 N·m (248 lb·ft) 6-speed U660E automatic
3.5 L 2GR-FE supercharged V6 241 kW (323 hp) 400 N·m (295 lb·ft)

Yeah those numbers are without the supercharger.

And the 323hp version is actually the 2GR-FSE if I recall correctly (Lexus IS350 application).

-Doc

So are they a possibility? What kinda pricerange?