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post Dec 9, 2008 - 2:07 PM
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post Dec 11, 2008 - 12:52 AM
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QUOTE (Spider77 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10:37 PM) *
Wow, thats alot of text. Yeah I agree, blame the guys who call the shots. I mean if I wanted to "borrow" 15 billion dollars Id slap on my suit, fly my big ol jet and whine about how I have no money. In fact anyone here paying a mortgage? Why dont we get together, buy a mansion, slap wheels on it and drive to DC and ask for money? Everyone is right in this matter...sort of. Yeah 52k a year for brrom pushing is a bit excessive, screwing the "little" guy isnt fair, asking for money when you really pissed what you had away is selfish. But I think the main point here is that no one bothered to try to fix this before it happened (or when it started), and now that it has, well maybe now things might get better....maybe.


i like this ^^^ mainly the last line however i think i should clarify
i was refering to the poverty line with 8 kids living in alaska clicky lol

anyway- i should say to live somewhat comfortable-jester i agree with you if you are working those hrs (7am to 11pm?)and making less than the janitor who prob only works 40 hours a week you should be making more- especially in a management position- but instead of being mad at as spider put it "the little guy" or the union for that matter (b/c they are only there to help the proverbial "little guy" i think we should be more upset at the ceo's and higher ups of the big 3's again unions arent out to kill babies or steal christmas (or hanukkah or kwanzaa or the winter solstice) just give a voice to the guy who works as a number for such a mondo corp.

and really although this is not 100% related- unions also help with immigration b/c rather than have x number of illegal immigrants cutting up my beef in somewheresville texas, i have a unionized butcher man getting paid more and not "robbing the system" bc we are paying undocumented workers- and i totally agree the republican tax ideal is great---its just never applied correctly

and props for reading my internet preaching-thanks : )

doesnt the homemade smiley make you feel like i care more ; )

dam there it is again-must be the holidays

o and side note our favorite brand TOYOTA is only laying off 700 part timers and retraining full time staff for plant shutdowns (different jobs) and keeping 40 hr wk and benefits
yay them!!!!

QUOTE (garin @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10:43 PM) *
We need to respect the leader of our nation even if we do not agree with his policies.


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post Dec 11, 2008 - 4:50 AM
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QUOTE (97celiman @ Dec 11, 2008 - 12:52 AM) *
QUOTE (Spider77 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10:37 PM) *
Wow, thats alot of text. Yeah I agree, blame the guys who call the shots. I mean if I wanted to "borrow" 15 billion dollars Id slap on my suit, fly my big ol jet and whine about how I have no money. In fact anyone here paying a mortgage? Why dont we get together, buy a mansion, slap wheels on it and drive to DC and ask for money? Everyone is right in this matter...sort of. Yeah 52k a year for brrom pushing is a bit excessive, screwing the "little" guy isnt fair, asking for money when you really pissed what you had away is selfish. But I think the main point here is that no one bothered to try to fix this before it happened (or when it started), and now that it has, well maybe now things might get better....maybe.


i like this ^^^ mainly the last line however i think i should clarify
i was refering to the poverty line with 8 kids living in alaska clicky lol

anyway- i should say to live somewhat comfortable-jester i agree with you if you are working those hrs (7am to 11pm?)and making less than the janitor who prob only works 40 hours a week you should be making more- especially in a management position- but instead of being mad at as spider put it "the little guy" or the union for that matter (b/c they are only there to help the proverbial "little guy" i think we should be more upset at the ceo's and higher ups of the big 3's again unions arent out to kill babies or steal christmas (or hanukkah or kwanzaa or the winter solstice) just give a voice to the guy who works as a number for such a mondo corp.

and really although this is not 100% related- unions also help with immigration b/c rather than have x number of illegal immigrants cutting up my beef in somewheresville texas, i have a unionized butcher man getting paid more and not "robbing the system" bc we are paying undocumented workers- and i totally agree the republican tax ideal is great---its just never applied correctly

and props for reading my internet preaching-thanks : )

doesnt the homemade smiley make you feel like i care more ; )

dam there it is again-must be the holidays

o and side note our favorite brand TOYOTA is only laying off 700 part timers and retraining full time staff for plant shutdowns (different jobs) and keeping 40 hr wk and benefits
yay them!!!!

QUOTE (garin @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10:43 PM) *
We need to respect the leader of our nation even if we do not agree with his policies.


cough jester cough cough

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its not the norm to live in alaska with 8 kids so you cant call that the poverty line haha
and no i work 530am till roughly 4pm and 7-11 is the company http://www.7-eleven.com/
and im not blaming just the little guy im blaming the rediculously paid "little guy" and his ceo for bleeding thier company dry to the point where it cant sustain itself in a tough time
unions dont do anything for immigration really it just pushes illegal workers into a different area
and thats the thing the rebulican tax ideal should be applied but like i said there should be like an oversight commity to make sure its being used correctly
as far as the toyota situation goes good for toyota theyre taking the right approach to the situation unfortunatelly people are loosing jobs but the company has to stay afloat and props for not robbing tax payer money doing it
as for the respect for our leader line ... well lets keep this on topic but i will say he has a lot of immoral belifes compared to my views and no experience whatsoever so no i dont like him at all but like i said lets keep the thread on topic
o look a self made smilie :-) hahahaha


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- playr158   The automotive bailout   Dec 9, 2008 - 2:07 PM
- - Supersprynt   The only reason the bailout will happen is to save...   Dec 9, 2008 - 2:14 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   your right they are going to bail these guys out j...   Dec 9, 2008 - 2:25 PM
- - RickJamesBish   That's a decent point Super, but they've k...   Dec 9, 2008 - 3:23 PM
- - 97lestyousay   I am against it, I am sorry for the workers but i...   Dec 9, 2008 - 3:30 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Dec 9, 2008 - 12...   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:03 PM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE (97lestyousay @ Dec 9, 2008 - 3...   Dec 9, 2008 - 9:14 PM
- - Supersprynt   They need to hire some Japanese consultants.   Dec 9, 2008 - 4:18 PM
- - richee3   I think the bailout is ridiculous. Granted, I don...   Dec 9, 2008 - 6:34 PM
- - njccmd2002   they need to invent better cars, it will take eons...   Dec 9, 2008 - 6:54 PM
- - bseaman_5   Richee that is an excelent point.. It's sad to...   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:03 PM
- - 96bluevert   If the domestic auto market can't start produc...   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:13 PM
- - richee3   Now that my little rant is over, that picture WAS ...   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:25 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 9, 2008 - 4:25 ...   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:28 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   we need to break the Unions, just my stance.   Dec 9, 2008 - 7:33 PM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Dec 9, 2008 - 7...   Dec 9, 2008 - 8:23 PM
|- - TheMadScientist   QUOTE (x_itchy_b_x @ Dec 9, 2008 - 5...   Dec 27, 2008 - 3:49 AM
- - richee3   ^^^ But of course, in the government's eyes, t...   Dec 9, 2008 - 9:40 PM
- - playr158   well if you work for the big 3...you are dumb if y...   Dec 10, 2008 - 12:32 AM
- - TRD_Ian   she is all going to hell, i live in canada and our...   Dec 10, 2008 - 2:24 AM
- - CAMAricer   Does anyone else realize where all this "bail...   Dec 10, 2008 - 3:35 AM
- - playr158   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Dec 10, 2008 - 3...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:17 AM
- - GriffGirl   No no even better— we'll simply print more...   Dec 10, 2008 - 8:16 PM
- - Spider77   You know its funny, we were talking about this sam...   Dec 10, 2008 - 8:37 PM
- - Akirad1   i dunno but who ever has 401k check how much you h...   Dec 10, 2008 - 8:43 PM
- - Spider77   Yeah, I know alot of guys who have something real ...   Dec 10, 2008 - 8:52 PM
- - 97celiman   ahhhhh the right wing-ness is killing me... so le...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:15 PM
|- - CAMAricer   Need...more...capitalization...and better punctuat...   Dec 11, 2008 - 5:03 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (CAMAricer @ Dec 11, 2008 - 2...   Dec 12, 2008 - 7:53 PM
- - njccmd2002   long post... could not read... we are trying to g...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:34 PM
- - Spider77   Wow, thats alot of text. Yeah I agree, blame the ...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:37 PM
- - garin   The bailout is a stupid idea. The tax payers money...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:43 PM
- - jesterwr217   first of all the senario is unrealistic no line wo...   Dec 10, 2008 - 9:56 PM
|- - samir0189   QUOTE (jesterwr217 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 9...   Dec 10, 2008 - 10:13 PM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE (samir0189 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10...   Dec 10, 2008 - 10:17 PM
- - goferris   I agree and disagree with that statement. I'm ...   Dec 10, 2008 - 10:38 PM
- - TRD_Ian   ok so i have a few things, like before 40 to 45 ju...   Dec 11, 2008 - 12:29 AM
- - 97celiman   QUOTE (Spider77 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 10...   Dec 11, 2008 - 12:52 AM
|- - jesterwr217   QUOTE (97celiman @ Dec 11, 2008 - 12...   Dec 11, 2008 - 4:50 AM
- - Culpable04   QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Dec 10, 2008 - 8:43...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:05 AM
- - playr158   at the poverty line talk and income comparison.   Dec 11, 2008 - 7:18 AM
- - Taskbot   I think your country should take the bailout money...   Dec 11, 2008 - 9:51 AM
- - Supersprynt   The bailout was approved - Sweden did the same wit...   Dec 11, 2008 - 10:27 AM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 11, 2008 - 10...   Dec 11, 2008 - 12:05 PM
- - playr158   they call it a bailout but its not. thats my probl...   Dec 11, 2008 - 10:33 AM
- - Supersprynt   Well - I'm not sure if they mean Saab & Vo...   Dec 11, 2008 - 12:46 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Dec 11, 2008 - 12...   Dec 11, 2008 - 2:13 PM
- - stephen_lee   i just don't understand how such large compani...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:15 PM
- - playr158   QUOTE (stephen_lee @ Dec 11, 2008 - 1...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:17 PM
- - Supersprynt   Makes sense - those companies will be sold off any...   Dec 11, 2008 - 2:15 PM
- - D-Man   We'll be seeing Saab and Volvo on the "FE...   Dec 11, 2008 - 4:22 PM
- - 97celiman   [/quote] whatsoever so no i dont like him at all b...   Dec 11, 2008 - 5:03 PM
- - tonytutino   oh well. the bill died tonight.   Dec 12, 2008 - 12:21 AM
- - stephen_lee   so... no bail out?   Dec 12, 2008 - 12:23 AM
- - creis   yup the bail-out appears to be officualy dead due ...   Dec 12, 2008 - 6:16 AM
- - 97celiman   yes i know i do this........ alot i really...hate....   Dec 14, 2008 - 8:39 PM
- - NgoFcukinWay   So a buddy of mine was telling me today that since...   Dec 15, 2008 - 12:03 AM
- - Cutrara   Oh God... Where is Lee Iacocca when you need him?   Dec 27, 2008 - 10:44 AM
- - Akirad1   well if ford styled the USDM cars like they do the...   Dec 31, 2008 - 8:00 PM
|- - stephen_lee   QUOTE (Akirad1 @ Dec 31, 2008 - 9:00...   Jan 2, 2009 - 3:26 AM
- - RickJamesBish   I agree Akira, unless you're into pickups and ...   Jan 2, 2009 - 10:44 AM


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