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post Nov 13, 2008 - 12:51 PM
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A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River . Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race.

On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile.

The Americans, very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action.

Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing.

Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion.

They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing.

Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager.

They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the ”Rowing Team Quality First Program” with meetings, dinners, and free pens for the rower. There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses.

The next year the Japanese won by two miles.

Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted development of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India .

Sadly, The End.

Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years trying to move all of its factories out of the US , claiming they can't make money paying American wages.

TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside the US. The last quarter's results for 2007:

TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses.

Senior managers at Ford are still scratching their heads.

IF THIS WEREN'T SO TRUE, IT MIGHT BE FUNNY.

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post Dec 11, 2008 - 7:36 AM
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errr no auto decrease turbo lag and increases performance in turbo cars not because it takes out the human element.


Automatics are better in drag racing with boosted cars because they don't loose power between shifts. torque is consistently applied to the motor and there is no loss between shifts. You can stay at WOT the entire time. In a manual transmission no matter how hard and fast you shift, there is a powerless free point where clutch is in and the motor is allowed to drop and blow off boost. Automatics don't do this.

thats why.

a 5 spd transmission vs an auto (all else being equal) Turbo supra will lose 99.9% of the time to the auto.
a human can't get anywhere near the speed of the modern day shift speed of a auto. That is unless you are down to milliseconds in shift time.

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- tomazws   Toyota VS Ford   Nov 13, 2008 - 12:51 PM
- - Supersprynt   I'm sad. Detroit is a sinking ship.   Nov 13, 2008 - 1:08 PM
- - Taskbot   Because its true, it is funny. Like with this in...   Nov 13, 2008 - 2:31 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (Taskbot @ Nov 13, 2008 - 11:3...   Nov 14, 2008 - 4:41 PM
- - RickJamesBish   But just because a car is built in a certain count...   Nov 13, 2008 - 4:02 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Nov 13, 2008 - 3...   Nov 13, 2008 - 4:25 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Nov 13, 2008 - 4...   Nov 13, 2008 - 5:12 PM
- - Supersprynt   Semantics. By this logic a car designed, built and...   Nov 13, 2008 - 4:24 PM
|- - GriffGirl   QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Nov 13, 2008 - 1...   Nov 14, 2008 - 2:11 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Nov 14, 2008 - 1...   Nov 14, 2008 - 4:50 PM
- - tomazws   oh i didn't write that.. i found it on another...   Nov 13, 2008 - 5:17 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (tomazws @ Nov 13, 2008 - 4:17...   Nov 13, 2008 - 5:46 PM
- - RickJamesBish   Taskbot, they're redabged for another brand......   Nov 13, 2008 - 5:21 PM
|- - Taskbot   QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Nov 13, 2008 - 5...   Nov 13, 2008 - 6:28 PM
- - DEATH   Toyota breifly tried to sell the Chevy Cavalier in...   Nov 14, 2008 - 4:57 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 14, 2008 - 3:57 P...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:06 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 14, 2008 - 1:57 P...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:31 PM
- - njccmd2002   that is the mistake.   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:13 PM
- - DEATH   From that to this: http://members.shaw.ca/toyota_...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:16 PM
|- - D-Man   QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 14, 2008 - 4:16 P...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:25 PM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (DEATH @ Nov 14, 2008 - 5:16 P...   Nov 14, 2008 - 6:14 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Nov 14, 2008 - 3...   Nov 14, 2008 - 7:01 PM
- - RickJamesBish   Still a Cavalier, who cares...then again, I was th...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:21 PM
- - DEATH   You guys act like it's not a dramatic improvem...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:27 PM
- - D-Man   No, i didn't say that. I said it looks like a ...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:33 PM
- - RickJamesBish   An auto Supra? Oh god that's fail. DEATH, it...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:36 PM
|- - gt_driFFter   QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Nov 14, 2008 - 7...   Nov 14, 2008 - 6:56 PM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (RickJamesBish @ Nov 14, 2008 - 4...   Nov 14, 2008 - 7:28 PM
- - D-Man   Fine then, like this one: CLICKY!! (damn,...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:42 PM
- - Random_Stranger   I had a somewhat friend who was at one time the on...   Nov 14, 2008 - 5:48 PM
- - joehernandez   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Nov 14, 2008 - ...   Nov 14, 2008 - 6:10 PM
- - 808celica   so can we used the cay's spoiler on ours?? sti...   Nov 14, 2008 - 7:35 PM
- - daazndood   fast forward to today and toyotas fastest car is l...   Nov 14, 2008 - 11:45 PM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (daazndood @ Nov 14, 2008 - 8...   Nov 15, 2008 - 12:29 AM
|- - Rayme   QUOTE (Random_Stranger @ Nov 15, 2008 - ...   Nov 15, 2008 - 1:06 AM
- - tomazws   That TRD'ed Cavalier does look pretty nice... ...   Nov 15, 2008 - 4:27 AM
|- - Random_Stranger   QUOTE (tomazws @ Nov 15, 2008 - 1:27...   Nov 15, 2008 - 4:36 AM
- - RickJamesBish   QUOTE (gt_driFFter @ Nov 14, 2008 - 6...   Nov 15, 2008 - 11:24 AM
- - richee3   Sorry to bring up a month old thread, but I'm ...   Dec 10, 2008 - 12:56 AM
|- - DEATH   QUOTE (richee3 @ Dec 9, 2008 - 11:56...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:15 AM
|- - richee3   QUOTE (DEATH @ Dec 11, 2008 - 2:15 A...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:20 AM
- - mikew04   If that's true then I imagine that it is cause...   Dec 10, 2008 - 11:20 PM
- - richee3   Yep, I know for a fact that it's true. I'v...   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:10 AM
- - DEATH   nvm   Dec 11, 2008 - 1:26 AM
- - playr158   errr no auto decrease turbo lag and increases perf...   Dec 11, 2008 - 7:36 AM
- - njccmd2002   wow, interesting info. so why is it that manuals a...   Dec 11, 2008 - 8:50 AM
- - Helix   Not all automatics are the same... You can't c...   Dec 11, 2008 - 9:22 AM
- - playr158   you can put very very strong tq converters into an...   Dec 11, 2008 - 9:28 AM
- - creis   A friend and engineer at boeing told me once, the ...   Dec 14, 2008 - 11:13 PM


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