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> Fixing a 2nd gen 3sgte harness / preping for my swap, no, its not going in Jenns car, its going in MINE! ;)
post Dec 24, 2008 - 6:48 PM
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so yea,
as most of ya know, we recently did up a 3rd gen swap for jim and as "payment" he gave me his 2nd gen setup.
as most of ya also know, this setup was originally RJB23's car, which was pretty much a mess from the day jim and shannon bought it.
Click me for details of that story

so once we got the 2nd gen motor up here, it has been sitting on a stand, waiting its turn.
i finally got around to getting the harness off, and am starting to get it cleaned, stripped, repaired, rerouted, rewrapped, and reloomed.
like everything else about the swap in that car, this engine harness was no diffrent, and in defense to the guy who did it (IIRC DGperformace did it) it did work, it was just routed and wrapped all crazy, and the ECU end basicly looked like a birds nest from people troubleshooting the ecu and wiring while it was in the car.
so i started tearing into it, and dustin came by last night and helped me get the interior plugs sorted out, since there was lots of "dead" (wires that go to nowhere) wires in the harness.
i also removed all the stuff i wont need or use, including all the ac stuff, TVIS, TVSV, ect.
once that was done, i went about cleaning and fixing any loose or broken wires, (there were a few, one of which wouldnt allow the car to start with the key...lmao) and rerouting and rewrapping it, getting it ready to be reloomed.
here are a few pics of how that is going.

first, the before. sorry for the blurry pic, its the only one i took..lol



this wire was in the harness that was routed behind the intake manifold, instead of inside of it, like it should be, and chaffed on the IM until it broke..just so happens this is the wire that tells the starter to crank. yes, jim, this really is why your car wouldnt start with the key! lmao



how the ECU side of the harness looks now:



and some of the leftovers:


and just for refrence, a pic of what a stock USDM 3s harness looks like, for an idea of what this one should look like when its done.


ill keep updating this thread and adding pics as i go along and continue with the project.

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post Dec 28, 2008 - 5:37 PM
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QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 5:32 PM) *
yup, mikes original diagrams back in the day had a few mistakes in them..hehe



There were actually a few revisions of them. The one DG got was a really bad one with a lot of mistakes, while the later ones were mostly correct with maybe 1 or 2 small mistakes, but I dont think he ever got those.

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post Dec 28, 2008 - 6:57 PM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 28, 2008 - 5:37 PM) *
QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 5:32 PM) *
yup, mikes original diagrams back in the day had a few mistakes in them..hehe



There were actually a few revisions of them. The one DG got was a really bad one with a lot of mistakes, while the later ones were mostly correct with maybe 1 or 2 small mistakes, but I dont think he ever got those.

yea..i have all that stuff too wink.gif


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- presure2   Fixing a 2nd gen 3sgte harness / preping for my swap   Dec 24, 2008 - 6:48 PM
- - njccmd2002   hey now that you bring it up. Wiring is the same ...   Dec 24, 2008 - 9:42 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 24, 2008 - 9...   Dec 25, 2008 - 7:46 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Nice work. LOL, good old DG, huh?   Dec 24, 2008 - 10:22 PM
- - x_itchy_b_x   haha thats classic. You inspired me   Dec 24, 2008 - 10:39 PM
- - lagos   In DGs defence I can tell you that this looks like...   Dec 25, 2008 - 12:30 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   Hahaha were all working on harness wtf. we should ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 12:37 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 24, 2008 - 9...   Dec 25, 2008 - 12:44 AM
|- - njccmd2002   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 25, 2008 - 12:44 ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 9:50 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Wait, hookers? (puts on shoes) Yeah Manny, I was ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 12:54 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Dec 25, 2008 - 12...   Dec 25, 2008 - 6:47 AM
- - x_itchy_b_x   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 25, 2008 - 2:44 A...   Dec 25, 2008 - 1:24 AM
- - _Jim_   LOL, OMG Manny......what a mess.   Dec 25, 2008 - 7:59 AM
- - 99GT   Hey Lagos, for two the white wires that goes to th...   Dec 25, 2008 - 9:35 AM
- - lagos   Manny... to ditch the fuel pump relay, take the 3 ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 10:15 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 25, 2008 - 10:15 ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 10:40 AM
- - lagos   99GT, there are 2 wires that go from the alternat...   Dec 25, 2008 - 10:25 AM
- - 99GT   My wires are burnt completely in two so I have to ...   Dec 25, 2008 - 10:35 AM
- - lagos   QUOTE (99GT @ Dec 25, 2008 - 10:35 A...   Dec 25, 2008 - 10:48 AM
- - WannabeGT4   Nice to see people doing it the right way. It...   Dec 26, 2008 - 12:41 AM
- - lagos   ^ will do!   Dec 26, 2008 - 1:23 AM
- - presure2   goddamnit i hate the way this harness was put toge...   Dec 27, 2008 - 8:20 AM
- - 95celgt   i remember that one, it didn't really go any w...   Dec 27, 2008 - 3:19 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (95celgt @ Dec 27, 2008 - 3:19...   Dec 27, 2008 - 4:52 PM
- - lagos   Im looking at my harness right now... So on the JD...   Dec 27, 2008 - 9:33 PM
- - devilsden97   no to interupt the amazingly high level of electro...   Dec 27, 2008 - 9:50 PM
- - Batman722   post more pics !!!!!!...   Dec 27, 2008 - 11:56 PM
- - lagos   I ran into something that I cant figure out. Plug ...   Dec 28, 2008 - 3:06 AM
- - presure2   art, the blue wire is for the fan switch in the ra...   Dec 28, 2008 - 7:09 AM
- - presure2   as promised, a few pics. the harness is 99% finish...   Dec 28, 2008 - 7:40 AM
- - lagos   I've been raving about those butane soldering ...   Dec 28, 2008 - 1:56 PM
- - 95st-celica   glad to see its getting done, Art.. im excited to ...   Dec 28, 2008 - 3:05 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 25, 2008 - 10:15 ...   Dec 28, 2008 - 3:12 PM
- - presure2   QUOTE That plug above is for the starter sub-harne...   Dec 28, 2008 - 3:36 PM
- - njccmd2002   Sticky, so that everyone knows what wiring entails...   Dec 28, 2008 - 3:50 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 3...   Dec 28, 2008 - 4:25 PM
- - lagos   ^ Yep, thats perfect.   Dec 28, 2008 - 4:48 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 3...   Dec 28, 2008 - 4:56 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE Yeah I noticed with a lot of the harnesses t...   Dec 28, 2008 - 5:00 PM
- - presure2   yup, mikes original diagrams back in the day had a...   Dec 28, 2008 - 5:32 PM
- - lagos   QUOTE (presure2 @ Dec 28, 2008 - 5:3...   Dec 28, 2008 - 5:37 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 28, 2008 - 5:37 P...   Dec 28, 2008 - 6:57 PM
- - presure2   so since we're going over all this stuff, i fi...   Dec 29, 2008 - 8:04 AM
- - playr158   very nice work my friend. I dig the attention to d...   Dec 29, 2008 - 9:19 AM
- - presure2   QUOTE and finding 1 more way to save weight. i...   Dec 29, 2008 - 9:29 AM
- - lagos   Nice! I'll try to post up some pics of the...   Dec 29, 2008 - 3:11 PM
- - CelicaST_CALI   Another swap..-_-...rabbits i tell you... Some ...   Dec 29, 2008 - 8:38 PM
- - presure2   so i took the harness out to the garage for a quic...   Dec 30, 2008 - 2:20 PM
- - lagos   so i was looking at my harness here, and correct m...   Dec 30, 2008 - 2:28 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 30, 2008 - 2:28 P...   Dec 30, 2008 - 6:26 PM
- - lagos   Right, so I will have to shorten the harness then.   Dec 30, 2008 - 8:50 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Dec 30, 2008 - 8:50 P...   Dec 30, 2008 - 9:10 PM
- - Defgeph   Nice work dude   Dec 31, 2008 - 5:48 PM
|- - hurley97   QUOTE (Defgeph @ Dec 31, 2008 - 5:48...   Dec 31, 2008 - 6:30 PM
- - lagos   I noticed a potentially horrible mistake that a n0...   Jan 5, 2009 - 1:24 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 5, 2009 - 1:24 AM...   Jan 5, 2009 - 7:40 AM
- - 95st-celica   very nice.your the man..solder that bitch up! ...   Jan 5, 2009 - 1:51 AM
- - lagos   Here are the two wires in question... Top two ar...   Jan 5, 2009 - 2:18 AM
- - playr158   great job Art even the small things matter   Jan 5, 2009 - 7:20 AM
- - presure2   so here is a pic of what im talking about: so, ...   Jan 5, 2009 - 8:39 AM
- - Dr_Tweak   Nice. So the starter was being powered directly ou...   Jan 5, 2009 - 10:05 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (Dr_Tweak @ Jan 5, 2009 - 10:0...   Jan 5, 2009 - 12:58 PM
- - lagos   But what about those two wires from the efi relay ...   Jan 5, 2009 - 1:36 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 5, 2009 - 1:36 PM...   Jan 5, 2009 - 3:17 PM
- - lagos   I did a quick voltage drop test between the batter...   Jan 5, 2009 - 4:29 PM
- - lagos   I need some help figuring this out... So, the way...   Jan 9, 2009 - 3:40 AM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 9, 2009 - 3:40 AM...   Jan 9, 2009 - 6:24 AM
- - lagos   right, but if you do that, you are powering the co...   Jan 9, 2009 - 3:00 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 9, 2009 - 3:00 PM...   Jan 9, 2009 - 6:38 PM
- - lagos   So are you saying you ran a brand new wire from pi...   Jan 9, 2009 - 6:59 PM
|- - presure2   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 9, 2009 - 6:59 PM...   Jan 10, 2009 - 6:34 AM
- - Batman722   Art, was the car that your doing this harness for ...   Jan 10, 2009 - 12:05 AM
- - lagos   Always a manual. Its just a difference in how the ...   Jan 10, 2009 - 12:47 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 10, 2009 - 12:47 ...   Jan 10, 2009 - 11:30 PM
- - lagos   I was really wondering how you handled that circui...   Jan 11, 2009 - 1:20 AM


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