Don't just think about getting GT4 Clear Lenses From Wolfie...., DO IT!!!! Options

[Random_Stranger]

I am so happy with these and were not hard to do at all! Boiling method! FTW!!!!

(I just realized I may have double posted since I had a thread in Exterior Styling! I am sorry, you can delete this and if you like I will post these in there, let me know before hand ya?)

Hopefully this will help promote the amazing work of Richard (Wolfie308, is the the correct ID? I Just know him as Richard) and will encourage more people to purchase from him so that he may continue to make these products for others. I am soooooooo loving these.


A lil look at the LEDs before hand







Now the Lenses!!!








THe only thing is now my blinkers with those LEDs do the whole TWEAKER BLINKER thing, ya know? Where they blink real fast. Not sure if it is the fact they run on 3w (12V 3w, I think regular bulbs do 12v 5w? Dunno) or if maybe I put them in backwards (just now in the dark)? I have a yellow set with regular bulbs if that gets on my nervs or a severe problem to electrical due to the LEDs.

If you know if maybe they need resistors, perhaps what kind I might need and how to install them? Thanks.

This post has been edited by Random_Stranger: Dec 28, 2008 - 4:48 AM

[BloodyStupidDave...]

THe only thing is now my blinkers with those LEDs ... blink real fast. Not sure if it is the fact they run on 3w (12V 3w, I think regular bulbs do 12v 5w?

The LEDs are probably even less than 3w. Yes, that is the reason they flash fast. You need to replace the turn signal relay (behind the driver's kick panel) with an electronic version. Be careful to order the correct one - the pin numbering and locations vary from car manufacturer to manufacturer. The OEM relay has a handy diagram on it to help you identify the correct replacement. I suspect that Toyota probably do their own electronic relay but the aftermarket ones work just fine and are probably much cheaper.

I ordered mine from aceparts on ebay. Just search for them if this link doesn't work. I can't be sure that the item in the listing is the correct one for our cars so please check before ordering (in any case I do know that they stock the right one).

[Random_Stranger]

THe only thing is now my blinkers with those LEDs ... blink real fast. Not sure if it is the fact they run on 3w (12V 3w, I think regular bulbs do 12v 5w?

The LEDs are probably even less than 3w. Yes, that is the reason they flash fast. You need to replace the turn signal relay (behind the driver's kick panel) with an electronic version. Be careful to order the correct one - the pin numbering and locations vary from car manufacturer to manufacturer. The OEM relay has a handy diagram on it to help you identify the correct replacement. I suspect that Toyota probably do their own electronic relay but the aftermarket ones work just fine and are probably much cheaper.

I ordered mine from aceparts on ebay. Just search for them if this link doesn't work. I can't be sure that the item in the listing is the correct one for our cars so please check before ordering (in any case I do know that they stock the right one).

So you can or cannot use resistors with regular bulbs if originally you did them specifically for LEDs? Basically asking if with the use of resistors, can one use both regular bulbs and LEDs?

[BloodyStupidDave...]

So you can or cannot use resistors with regular bulbs if originally you did them specifically for LEDs? Basically asking if with the use of resistors, can one use both regular bulbs and LEDs?

As answered in your other thread, you need to remove the load resistors again if you revert to filament bulbs. However, if you instead use an electronic flasher relay you can mix and match leds and filament bulbs as you desire.

[Random_Stranger]

So you can or cannot use resistors with regular bulbs if originally you did them specifically for LEDs? Basically asking if with the use of resistors, can one use both regular bulbs and LEDs?

As answered in your other thread, you need to remove the load resistors again if you revert to filament bulbs. However, if you instead use an electronic flasher relay you can mix and match leds and filament bulbs as you desire.

Ok. It's cool if you want to call me stupid, but um..... What is an Electronic Flasher and would you install it the same as a resistor? I can look online, but you know the easiest accessable answers are usually BS, and you are very wise in this department. So I ask you directly.

[BloodyStupidDave...]

What is an Electronic Flasher and would you install it the same as a resistor?

Essentially it is a relay. It looks like an automotive relay.

The cheap flasher units in older cars are a bimetalic strip. That's two different metals bonded toether. When they are cold one strip is longer than the other so they bend to the left. But when heated, the thermal expansion of the two metals is different causing the strip to bend to the right. The relay is constructed in such a way as that when the strip bends to the left it touches one contact and when it bends to the right it touches another. Furthermore, the strip itself is thin and carries the current. So, when the circuit is turned on, the strip gets hot from the electricity flowing through it, expands, breaks the circuit, cools (because no current is flowing over it) switches back to te left, makes the circuit and starts heating again. And so on.

Bimetalic flashers are really cheap to make but suffer one drawback: They expect the indicator bulbs to be a certain resistance. Traditionally this has been good as it means that one can tell when an indicator bulb has blown because of the faster flash sequence. But LED bulbs look like blown bulbs to a bimetalic flasher.

So there is an alternative. Electronic flashers have an electronic circuit inside that controls the flash rate no matter what the reisistance of the bulbs are (within limits - typically they can deliver anything between 0.2A and 20A) - you can even mix and match bulb types if you wish. The down side is that they tend not to provide bulb failure indication.

Installation is easy just unplug the turn signal relay (bimetallic flasher) from the relay box in the driver's kick panel and plug in the electronic flasher in its place.

Here is an example product but please check it is the right one for your car before ordering:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...ME:B:EF:GB:1123

This post has been edited by BloodyStupidDavey: Dec 29, 2008 - 6:30 AM