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post Jan 3, 2009 - 7:56 PM
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hey yall i dont know if any one has posted it or not (if they have feel free to hit me up with the normal check the old fourms lol) but i saw this new way of instwlling a turbo. what they do is put the turbo at the tail pipe at the back of the car. u bolt the hot side to the tail pipe with a flange and then run your down pipe directly to the muffler. and on the compressure side u run your piping from the turbo to the throttle body. dont know if you can do the intercooler because the pipe will be so long? only thing is im sure you will have alot of turbo lag. and you run the oil lines like u would with the normal setup (just will need alot of line) and i thought this would be great for people like me with a ST because turbo manifolds are so hard to find. when i come across the money im going to try it but if u have the bank to do it before me let me know how it turns out! it just something i thought would help turn the celica into a hellica biggrin.gif
 
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post Jan 4, 2009 - 11:59 AM
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It's a good thinking outside of the box idea, and STS has done well with using that idea, but I put zero faith in these remote mounted turbo systems. The vast majority of these cars I've seen with them (I'm talking of V8 Vette's, Camaro's, and Firebirds) have been nothing more than dyno queens. On the street/strip, they've been turds. There's a select few out there that are turning real numbers and times, but those guys have days upon days of tweaking and tuning to get every last little detail working right to make it happen (more than what should be necessary).

The flaws I see in the system:

LOTS of pipes being coupled = LOTS of places for leaks
On a small displacement motor, it will be very hard to get a turbo spooled way back there
Turbo Lag -- I don't care what STS or owners say, you're GOING to get lag with a remote mount. Your exhaust was cooled immensely by the time it gets to where the turbo is/would be, translating into less velocity and slower spool times.
Oil lines running front to back and a potential to fail scavenging pump is absolutely needed
Same for coolant lines if you choose a water cooled turbo
EASILY STOLEN. Given that a 6GC is a recognizable car when turbocharged with the FMIC, if someone takes note that there's a turbo under the back you could easily come out to a much louder and slower car one morning.



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Posts in this topic
- st18   turbo idea   Jan 3, 2009 - 7:56 PM
- - RickJamesBish   Something similar was done with the Hennessey Cher...   Jan 3, 2009 - 7:59 PM
- - njccmd2002   i think you just blew your engine.   Jan 3, 2009 - 8:05 PM
- - caszboy   here is a pic on a corvette Its not a bad idea ...   Jan 3, 2009 - 8:26 PM
|- - st18   QUOTE (caszboy @ Jan 3, 2009 - 8:26 ...   Jan 3, 2009 - 9:06 PM
- - caszboy   here is another pic and what they claim: (notice n...   Jan 3, 2009 - 8:31 PM
- - SpoonR530   I like the original thinking. I am not convinced i...   Jan 3, 2009 - 10:29 PM
|- - st18   QUOTE (SpoonR530 @ Jan 3, 2009 - 10...   Jan 3, 2009 - 11:16 PM
- - njccmd2002   everyday you learn something new.   Jan 3, 2009 - 10:46 PM
- - soulshadow   I have seen this been done with a turbo behind th...   Jan 3, 2009 - 11:26 PM
|- - st18   QUOTE (soulshadow @ Jan 3, 2009 - 11...   Jan 3, 2009 - 11:43 PM
- - playr158   remote mount turbos have been around for a couple ...   Jan 4, 2009 - 12:04 AM
|- - st18   QUOTE (playr158 @ Jan 4, 2009 - 1:04...   Jan 4, 2009 - 1:22 AM
- - 97celiman   actually the guy on gearz umm stacey david i think...   Jan 4, 2009 - 1:03 AM
- - bslik   i like the idea and have wondered about it on celi...   Jan 4, 2009 - 1:16 AM
- - lagos   This would totally suck ass on an ST.   Jan 4, 2009 - 1:56 AM
|- - st18   QUOTE (lagos @ Jan 4, 2009 - 2:56 AM...   Jan 4, 2009 - 2:21 AM
- - lagos   Your 1.8l 4cly is going to have a really hard time...   Jan 4, 2009 - 2:33 AM
- - easternpiro1   not only that, but would it be practical for somet...   Jan 4, 2009 - 3:55 AM
- - Fastbird   It's a good thinking outside of the box idea, ...   Jan 4, 2009 - 11:59 AM
- - RichieRichJP   Personally, I think that would make your car an ea...   Jan 4, 2009 - 12:43 PM
- - celica09   i think that its not the best idea in the world bu...   Jan 4, 2009 - 1:21 PM
- - st18   thanks guys for the input alot of things i would h...   Jan 4, 2009 - 3:09 PM
- - hurley97   QUOTE (st18 @ Jan 3, 2009 - 7:56 PM)...   Jan 4, 2009 - 8:49 PM
- - Cevax   It seems that your 1.8 has oil pressure problems w...   Jan 5, 2009 - 8:57 AM
- - trd94   if done cheaply ,and fast ... then it wont work we...   Jan 5, 2009 - 2:35 PM


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