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post Jan 24, 2009 - 8:56 PM
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Hi guys and dolls.

BC have recently developed some coilovers for the ST205.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BC-Adjustable-Coilov...A1%7C240%3A1318

Normally eveyrone in the UK only buy Tein an TRD coilovers and tent to avoid every other brands when it comes to coilover.
Recently in GBP isnt doing so well and Tein has also anounced a huge price increase hence putting me into the "definately cant afford" status.

Well the new BC coilovers have adopted the idea of using the origional housing of the stock Super strut shocks and changing the inserts like the D2, k-sport and G4's. In a nutshell it's a crap design but BC's inserts are different as they require you to cut the stock shocks down and allowing you to use the full length of the coilover shocks.

Here are some pictures I've been sent and I've been convinced to be the first to try a set in the UK.










Untill now I've not heard of BC before in the UK but after doing some research, I've found that they're pretty good.
So what's everyones opinion with BC around the world on other cars? Has anyone experienced using them before?

Ray
 
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post Jan 31, 2009 - 7:32 AM
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Ok so I've had a good inspection of the BC coilovers and read the leaftlets that came with it.
I'vealso taken some close up pictures and voice my thoughts and elaberate on a few features.
The kit for the ST205 is coilovers are the BR Type which is BC flagship Gold and black product.
THere is a thinner one available in the UK which is the V1 design and they are red and black.
The difference is a bit like the Tein Super street and Super drift.

The entire kit looks like this.

None of that silly purple, or metalic blue colour.
It looks sleak and looks like it does the job.
The kit comes with 2 keys, on eslightly larger than the other for height adjustments.
Also included is a long alan key for adjusting the top mounts.

The first think I noticed was its Triple lock ring design boasting that common alu rings chew up the threads after a few adjustments.
I couldnt help thinking the key isnt as heavy duty and thick as the rings its self and that the hooks looked a bit shallow and that after a few slips, I could end up rounding off the rings.


But when placed on teh rings itself, it actually felt quite sturdy but I still didnt like the hooks of the keys being slightly rounded.


The groves on the rings where at a slight angle where the key hooks on quite tightly. Still I'd be cautious about ajusting it at the wrong angle.

Next thing I noticed was that the top and bottom ends of the springs where welded at the tip unlike normal lowering springs on a normal SSS setup.
There is also a L shaped ring seated at the top and bottom of the springs.
This is all so that there is no squeaking or rubbing of metal on metal like what you'd find on TRD and Tein lowering springs. I'm not sure if other coilovers have the same design feature.


Now this set comes with adjustable "TRUE CHAMBER" topmounts in the front but not the rear.
What they mean by true chamber top mounts is compared to the D2, these align upso that the adjustments can move in a perfect horizontal motion not in a 45 degree angle.

The top mount looks pretty impressive. I've seen the TRD and Tein top mounts and this looks like its the business. There's no Hard rubber but made of I believe solid steal same as the rear. Though the rear is not adjustable, it is already fixed at an angle.



The front has bearings which helps reduce the damping force delivered to the pillow and is suppose to be very durable.


Next off is the actual cylinder. They are 53mm pistons which is suppose to be larger than other street competitors that uses 44mm pistons.
And because its not the actual cylinder being inserted into the SSS legs, it is larger and holds more volume.
Wthin the springs, I couldnt help noticing that teh rubber gater which keeps the dirt off looks a bit flimsy. Yes it does the job but it does look like a gineric part.

Pulling it back I discovered what looks like a bump stop inside the gater.


The finish looks 50/50 with these. The shiny end look very shiny and the welds didnt look too bad. Yes some bits looked like an overkill of weld

And some the rest looked nice and consistant

But look carefully at the black paint, it doesn't look very neat. I dont think it was powdercoated bup prayed and around the welds where quite a bit of excess flakes.

Last of all the actual inset.
This is the bit which needs to be inserted into the SS legs.
Its seperate from the cyliner and of clean metal allowing you to spot weld it to the legs.

I'm a bit sceptical about welding this because Im worried about the oil heating up inside the shocks.
But I guess they must have thought this through hence why the insert its self is hollow allowing it to cool quicker

I guess I'll only know on the day at the workshop.

One other thing. The Damping adjuster at the top.
It can be adjusted to 30 levels of firmness.
Unlike the TRD adjustable shocks which just have 1,2,3 and 4
It turns over about 3 times and clicks about every 2 mm of a turn.
It is great that it has 30 settings but I'm thinking that each time I change the settings I'll have to turn it all the way to soft, and count the number of clicks up to make sure its the same on both sides.

Well thats it for now. I should hopefully be welding these to the legs next week and please excuse my poor spelling and grammar.

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- yellowchinaman   BC coilovers for the GT4   Jan 24, 2009 - 8:56 PM
- - celica3000   last week search coilovers for my celica and find ...   Jan 25, 2009 - 6:32 AM
- - yellowchinaman   That's not the same one Celica3000. This one i...   Jan 25, 2009 - 9:01 AM
- - celica3000   yes, i see it is st 205 i share the information...   Jan 25, 2009 - 9:27 AM
- - VinT   Ray, very usefull information. thanks. Will you bu...   Jan 29, 2009 - 1:22 PM
- - yellowchinaman   yes I did. Arrived this morning and I'm the fi...   Jan 29, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - NGHTKD   Im going to get these for my Celica... prefer them...   Jan 30, 2009 - 4:38 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Ok so I've had a good inspection of the BC coi...   Jan 31, 2009 - 7:32 AM
- - trdproven   Megan coilovers are indeed getting cheaper. Got m...   Jan 31, 2009 - 8:13 AM
- - yellowchinaman   yeah unfortunately for us here in the uk the GBP i...   Jan 31, 2009 - 9:08 AM
- - chacha   please and thank you for keep us updated on this b...   Jan 31, 2009 - 6:04 PM
- - celica3000   good review send email for bc uk ask shipping to ...   Feb 1, 2009 - 7:00 AM
- - azian_advanced   i'm still stumped as to how these are installe...   Feb 1, 2009 - 10:07 AM
- - Culpable04   I think that has to be done only for the super str...   Feb 1, 2009 - 11:03 AM
- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (azian_advanced @ Feb 1, 2009 - 10...   Feb 1, 2009 - 11:12 PM
|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Feb 2, 2009 - 12...   Sep 6, 2012 - 9:24 PM
- - azian_advanced   i understand that part, i bought a set of blown su...   Feb 1, 2009 - 11:36 PM
- - yellowchinaman   not alot. I've not taken the inserts out perso...   Feb 2, 2009 - 7:07 PM
- - whatthe   Hey im doing some rearch on lowering my car, and B...   Feb 3, 2009 - 11:16 AM
- - yellowchinaman   how long will they last is like asking how long is...   Feb 3, 2009 - 11:38 AM
- - whatthe   ^yes they make it for the st202/3/4. Ive got my ey...   Feb 3, 2009 - 11:51 AM
- - yellowchinaman   save up because in the end I'm organising a gr...   Feb 3, 2009 - 8:55 PM
- - whatthe   ^ that sounds great man, i was going to organise s...   Feb 3, 2009 - 9:00 PM
- - yellowchinaman   Last night I started working on cutting the stock ...   Feb 4, 2009 - 12:20 PM
- - VinT   Looking good. But I have one question.. Are there ...   Feb 5, 2009 - 7:58 AM
- - yellowchinaman   nope. You just press them all the way in and then ...   Feb 5, 2009 - 11:22 AM
|- - VinT   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Feb 5, 2009 - 12...   Feb 12, 2009 - 6:29 PM
- - yellowchinaman   ok another small update. I didnt do much last week...   Feb 19, 2009 - 11:51 AM
- - mikaelhoglund   Hello! I have a D2 coiloverkit and it works fi...   Feb 27, 2009 - 10:08 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (mikaelhoglund @ Feb 27, 2009 - 10...   Mar 3, 2009 - 9:57 AM
- - SveNRG   For those of you eagerly awaiting more info, here...   Mar 27, 2009 - 3:09 AM
- - yellowchinaman   Well it's been a long wait but its finally all...   Apr 8, 2009 - 4:37 PM
- - AnaXyd   Great writeup! Do you suggest BC instead of Me...   Jun 11, 2009 - 2:33 PM
- - SveNRG   Thank you for this great write-up! I'm ser...   Jul 6, 2009 - 2:32 AM
- - 95CelicaST   BC coilovers are highly regarded in the Subaru com...   Jul 22, 2009 - 12:08 PM
- - 3WayStunna   Not to sound ignorant, or silly, but will all sets...   Jul 23, 2009 - 4:03 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Jul 23, 2009 - 5...   Jul 23, 2009 - 7:42 AM
- - 3WayStunna   well thank you much Chinaman. Speaking for myself,...   Jul 28, 2009 - 5:38 AM
|- - yellowchinaman   QUOTE (3WayStunna @ Jul 28, 2009 - 6...   Jul 28, 2009 - 8:55 AM
- - Wolf_tm   Hi Ray !!! As I fitted them too, what...   Oct 3, 2009 - 6:30 AM
|- - delusionz   QUOTE (Wolf_tm @ Oct 3, 2009 - 11:30...   Jul 8, 2012 - 1:57 PM
- - yellowchinaman   Hi Wolf. I dont have that problem. I have much mor...   Oct 3, 2009 - 12:44 PM
|- - Wolf_tm   QUOTE (yellowchinaman @ Oct 3, 2009 - 7...   Oct 4, 2009 - 2:46 AM
|- - jackett   How do you find these coilovers compared to Tein S...   Oct 4, 2009 - 4:51 PM
|- - Wolf_tm   QUOTE (jackett @ Oct 4, 2009 - 11:51...   Oct 5, 2009 - 3:34 AM
- - Wolf_tm   Received a mail from BC racing: for them 4mm clear...   Oct 5, 2009 - 8:50 AM
- - Mercer   What is the ride height adjustablity like, i see u...   Jan 1, 2010 - 7:12 PM
- - VinT   yellowchinaman, please post something about riding...   Feb 9, 2010 - 5:41 AM
- - nics   isnt it that megan racing coilovers are rebranded ...   Feb 9, 2010 - 4:50 PM
- - Penkka   Yeah its Bor-Chuann, and they have made coilovers ...   Jun 10, 2010 - 10:01 AM
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|- - BonzaiCelica   QUOTE (GT4 @ Oct 5, 2011 - 4:59 AM) ...   Oct 5, 2011 - 5:42 PM
|- - malpaso   QUOTE (GT4 @ Oct 5, 2011 - 11:59 AM)...   Oct 6, 2011 - 3:02 AM
- - zeus83   digging this old thread.... thanks Ray for the gr...   May 9, 2012 - 1:00 AM
- - Neon90424   im loving my Bc coilovers, awesome in everyway...   May 9, 2012 - 4:03 AM
- - yellowchinaman   wow. Didnt think this thread was still going on. O...   May 9, 2012 - 9:39 AM
- - zeus83   glad to hear your positive feedback guys! so ...   May 11, 2012 - 2:57 AM
- - yellowchinaman   I had a friend use Mig weld on them and it was onl...   May 15, 2012 - 12:34 PM
- - zeus83   cool! but mind me asking, why not weld all r...   May 30, 2012 - 3:45 AM
- - zeus83   ok...lets start! First of all thanks to Ray a...   Jul 3, 2012 - 8:20 AM
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