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post Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
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So I was planning on doing another 5sfte set-up, but thought why not just go about doing a 5sgte set-up.

I don't plan on running an EMS anytime soon. Although down the road its obvious that I will have to.

The plan is to buy a complete 3rd gen 3sge motor. Thats right a 3sge motor. The plan is to just take the head and all the electronics and TRY to sell the block. I already have turbo parts, minus the turbo. I will run with the 3sge ecu, but with the emanage ultimate.

Injectors since the 3sge is side feed, I will probably go with 540s. Not sure what injectors the 3rd gen 3sge uses.

I have been in contact with MCS and I will be probably be getting a crank that has already been turned down to accept the stock 3sgte rods I am using. The cost of their crank is 300, but I am in the process of shopping around to see if its cheaper to machine down the crank I have out of the 94 block. The plus side to MCS is the fact that they use 98+ cranks only.

I will have the wiring harness converted for me by Doc.

I did originally plan to build the bottom end with the following parts and get the 5sfe cams regrind from Geoff at Colt Cams for $400, oversized valves from a 2jz and do the head up. To be honest the machining is the thing that makes both plans pricey.

I DO want to build a 5sfTe beast, but at the same time Just think of having a 5sgte.

What do you guys think I should do. I'm going to be honest, I have been researching day and night for the past week. Not going to bed until 4AM and the first thing I do when I wake up is log onto the internet.

Lets make this final and end my dilemma.

-Will

This post has been edited by bccentaur3: Feb 19, 2009 - 11:14 PM


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

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post Feb 20, 2009 - 4:48 PM
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You may want to wait for the HKS gasket. I remember seeing differences in the coolant ports between the TRD, TTE, and Stock 2nd gen gaskets. There may be differences with the HKS gasket as well?


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Posts in this topic
- bccentaur3   Will's Project 5SGTE   Feb 17, 2009 - 1:35 AM
- - b1gr3d   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Feb 17, 2009 - 12...   Feb 17, 2009 - 3:15 PM
- - bccentaur3   Have been talking to Eazy lately on mr2oc. On Garr...   Feb 17, 2009 - 4:46 PM
- - b1gr3d   from what i understand the bore and deck height on...   Feb 18, 2009 - 1:14 AM
- - bccentaur3   I understand the difference between the 5sgte, 5sg...   Feb 18, 2009 - 3:07 AM
- - b1gr3d   you my friend are doing a 2.2 stroker then good ...   Feb 18, 2009 - 11:14 AM
- - bccentaur3   Its not a stroker if I use the 5s block with the 3...   Feb 18, 2009 - 12:37 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   go for it ill help u put the motor together..   Feb 18, 2009 - 1:13 PM
- - bccentaur3   My mistake 3sge 3rd gen is top feed.   Feb 18, 2009 - 3:03 PM
- - bccentaur3   So I went ahead and ordered a 3rd gen 3sgte head g...   Feb 18, 2009 - 8:06 PM
- - bccentaur3   Should get the machined down crank in a couple of ...   Feb 19, 2009 - 11:21 PM
- - scothaniel   FYI - you can use Mitsubishi / DSM top feed inject...   Feb 19, 2009 - 11:49 PM
- - bccentaur3   Ahh... I spent lots of time researching that. Sinc...   Feb 20, 2009 - 12:00 AM
- - scothaniel   I recall having problems with the 2nd gen timing b...   Feb 20, 2009 - 12:23 AM
- - bccentaur3   Can't I use the gen 2 tensioner and idler pull...   Feb 20, 2009 - 12:39 AM
- - bccentaur3   IIRC the tensioner pulley on the 3rd gen is the sa...   Feb 20, 2009 - 12:45 AM
- - Terracar   Well sounds like some have already corrected you o...   Feb 20, 2009 - 9:46 AM
- - Muggs   Terracar makes a good point, I think I mentioned t...   Feb 20, 2009 - 11:03 AM
- - bccentaur3   Well, Terracar theres many people out there that r...   Feb 20, 2009 - 12:12 PM
- - bccentaur3   Went to the machine shop today to see how much the...   Feb 20, 2009 - 4:42 PM
- - Insan3   i got a quick question on the 5sgte, i know people...   Feb 20, 2009 - 4:44 PM
|- - bccentaur3   QUOTE (Insan3 @ Feb 20, 2009 - 3:44 ...   Feb 20, 2009 - 6:01 PM
- - scothaniel   You may want to wait for the HKS gasket. I remembe...   Feb 20, 2009 - 4:48 PM
- - Insan3   okay thanks dude   Feb 20, 2009 - 6:04 PM
- - bccentaur3   Following parts came in. Still waiting on the...   Feb 24, 2009 - 5:17 PM
- - scothaniel   I wasn't able to get it shipped out over the w...   Feb 24, 2009 - 5:32 PM
- - bccentaur3   Don't forget to give me your paypal so I can s...   Feb 24, 2009 - 5:34 PM
- - bccentaur3   I got the 3rd gen turbo manifold in today.   Feb 25, 2009 - 3:27 PM
- - bccentaur3   And my girl just brought the rods in. My parts go ...   Feb 25, 2009 - 3:48 PM
- - presure2   yup, lube em up will, no problemo.   Feb 25, 2009 - 3:55 PM
- - bccentaur3   Okay will do boss.   Feb 25, 2009 - 4:15 PM
- - bccentaur3   look what came in today. just waiting on head ...   Feb 27, 2009 - 8:44 PM
- - bccentaur3   And the block I am working with..   Mar 1, 2009 - 1:22 AM
- - Dragondog   i am gettin a beams and plan to turbo it im told n...   Mar 1, 2009 - 1:30 AM
- - jeffrosie   You can have the compression lowered by having the...   Mar 1, 2009 - 5:38 AM
- - Smaay   you bought the 3S rods from that guy on MR2oc. i w...   Mar 1, 2009 - 11:35 AM
- - bccentaur3   I got it from Sang. Did he really post it on MR2OC...   Mar 1, 2009 - 12:41 PM
- - Dragondog   hey bcc im doing a swap myself but im getting alot...   Mar 1, 2009 - 3:00 PM
- - bccentaur3   I really don't know much about the beams. I...   Mar 1, 2009 - 3:33 PM
- - Dragondog   ok well i have a t36 turbo and i suppose its too m...   Mar 1, 2009 - 4:39 PM
- - bccentaur3   I honestly have never heard of a t36 turbo. I can...   Mar 1, 2009 - 6:24 PM
- - Dragondog   ok well money im not worried nither time, diff yes...   Mar 2, 2009 - 4:16 AM
- - bccentaur3   If you got a bunch of money and time, I say swap i...   Mar 2, 2009 - 12:10 PM
- - bccentaur3   Thanks to Scott I got his used 3rd gen head gasket...   Mar 2, 2009 - 5:22 PM
- - bccentaur3   Look what I picked up for $50. I'll hav...   Mar 4, 2009 - 10:54 PM
- - bccentaur3   SO me and a few MN 6gc members met up at our buddi...   Mar 7, 2009 - 6:19 PM
- - Smaay   i love these comparison pics. here are the differe...   Mar 8, 2009 - 12:56 AM
- - bccentaur3   You have got to be joking me.. The 1zz rods are th...   Mar 8, 2009 - 1:07 AM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   This is gonna be really nice when it's all sai...   Mar 8, 2009 - 9:07 AM
- - bccentaur3   Shot peened rods for 75? 75 a piece right? Not the...   Mar 8, 2009 - 12:35 PM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m...   Mar 8, 2009 - 1:34 PM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   75$ for the set. Nick from mcs got them for m...   Mar 8, 2009 - 1:37 PM
- - Dragondog   where can i get some good pistons and rods and rin...   Mar 8, 2009 - 9:22 PM
- - bccentaur3   Shop around. I believe the 3sgte guys like the wis...   Mar 8, 2009 - 9:58 PM
- - bccentaur3   so thanks to 1bwilson, he told me to update this t...   Apr 22, 2009 - 9:01 PM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   Will i feel your pain. MCS is telling me the same ...   Apr 25, 2009 - 12:51 PM
- - bccentaur3   Hey guys, update on the project. A couple of week...   May 10, 2009 - 6:19 PM
- - bccentaur3   Thanks to the help of fellow MN 6th geners Zgear (...   May 10, 2009 - 6:47 PM
- - presure2   good stuff will!   May 11, 2009 - 7:16 AM
- - bccentaur3   Thanks Manny.   May 11, 2009 - 7:23 AM
- - b1gr3d   about those supra valves? are they the stock 2jz s...   May 11, 2009 - 9:06 AM
- - bccentaur3   I don't think I can run 2jz valves on the 1st ...   May 11, 2009 - 9:36 AM
- - crankyelbow   so the 1st gen 3sgte head may be the most easy hea...   May 11, 2009 - 8:02 PM
- - bccentaur3   hahaha you just said CHEAP. Nothing about this bui...   May 11, 2009 - 8:21 PM
|- - crankyelbow   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 9...   May 11, 2009 - 8:26 PM
- - bccentaur3   Crank= 338 Pistons= 500 Rods= 50 Head with all sen...   May 11, 2009 - 8:45 PM
|- - crankyelbow   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ May 11, 2009 - 8...   May 16, 2009 - 12:54 PM
- - bccentaur3   Pics from the work done today. 3sgte block Loo...   May 11, 2009 - 9:52 PM
- - bccentaur3   Got a little more work done. I got one cylinder do...   May 12, 2009 - 9:37 PM
- - bccentaur3   So after hours of dremeling and thanks to my dad f...   May 16, 2009 - 12:40 PM
- - bccentaur3   My crank came in a couple of days ago. And here sh...   May 22, 2009 - 12:25 PM
- - RUNNIN-LOW   nice!!! i gotta come check this out...   May 22, 2009 - 12:55 PM
- - supershannon77   looking real good! Cant wait for more update...   May 22, 2009 - 5:28 PM
- - Muggs   Give us an update, Will! Is this thing going t...   Jun 10, 2009 - 9:45 PM
- - Punch   glad to see this project being done i got alot of...   Aug 10, 2009 - 7:08 PM
- - Nartanian   Wow, where have I been. I gotta see this in person...   Aug 10, 2009 - 9:26 PM
- - bccentaur3   Update: picked up a 1st gen 3sge intake manifold ...   Aug 28, 2009 - 9:20 PM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   Nice!! Did you end up going to The shop i...   Aug 28, 2009 - 10:16 PM
- - bccentaur3   yeah wayyy cheaper. He even remembered your name.   Aug 28, 2009 - 10:53 PM
- - subspec   good stuff.   Aug 31, 2009 - 4:22 AM
- - playr158   WIll the work looks good, keep it up   Aug 31, 2009 - 6:36 AM
- - Punch   good job i got lots of parts pm me if u need somt...   Sep 4, 2009 - 1:36 PM
- - bccentaur3   Specs of the rev 1 3sge cams IN Open/Close 5/55 ...   Sep 6, 2009 - 10:06 PM
- - Nartanian   Looking really good bro.   Sep 6, 2009 - 10:11 PM
- - bccentaur3   FINALLY got my block sent to the machinist, becaus...   Sep 18, 2009 - 10:24 PM
- - ZGear   After all that abuse on your bike over the years.....   Sep 20, 2009 - 12:40 AM
- - bccentaur3   Got my bearings in. got them from raceeng.com. A...   Sep 22, 2009 - 6:09 PM
- - boosted185   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Sep 22, 2009 - 6...   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:12 PM
- - bccentaur3   Thanks, I'll look into that.   Sep 22, 2009 - 7:15 PM
- - bccentaur3   Well, it has just been a waiting game. I plastigau...   Nov 29, 2009 - 2:24 PM
- - Mstoochn   until i got my rpm down to about 700 i found i did...   Nov 29, 2009 - 2:55 PM
- - bccentaur3   I swapped back to the st165 gte cams. I was using ...   Nov 29, 2009 - 4:57 PM
- - bccentaur3   pic of engine bay. Excuse the dirtyness. Just want...   Nov 29, 2009 - 6:03 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   Looks Great!!   Dec 1, 2009 - 6:12 PM
- - Red_T_swiftcam   Looking good Will. I want to see it in person!   Nov 29, 2009 - 8:57 PM
- - 99GT   Blizzard Tuning.   Dec 1, 2009 - 2:46 PM
- - whatthe   Any updates on this build, its pretty dam impressi...   Apr 17, 2010 - 11:32 AM
- - bccentaur3   No real update. I have a little over 2500 miles on...   Apr 18, 2010 - 9:29 AM
- - mickwheelz   honda ecu conversion??   Apr 27, 2010 - 6:52 PM
- - bccentaur3   yes sir. List of parts obdI honda ecu prefera...   Apr 28, 2010 - 11:32 AM


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