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post Mar 31, 2009 - 12:46 PM
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So we just got done replacing my sisters motor, because she bought the car for a grand thinking it was a great runner without having me look at it prior to the purchase. My dad brought it home and I knew right away it was running on only 3 cylinders. Did some tests and found out indeed it was only running on 3 cylinders. So I decided to pull the motor and open her up, finding out there was a hole in the oil pan and the rod in cylinder 2 snapped right in half. So then my dad had to throw another 500 into the POS and picked up a 5s at a breaker yard.

Her car was an auto and she wanted a manual so I decided to swap parts over from a parts car I have to do the manual swap. Manual swap went without as hitch until now, the master clutch cylinder is busted, but its an easy fix.

The real issue is the fact that the motor won't start. We did a water pump and timing belt job on the motor and made sure timing was correct. I checked and double checked.

The motor turns over just fine with a bunch of power. I checked the compression on the cold motor and it has 180 across the board. The breaker yard wrote on the valve cover that the motor had 215 psi in each cylinder so I would assume that it from a warm motor.

I checked for fuel and we ARE getting fuel.

Checked for spark in the day time but couldn't see any spark. Tested the coil and its within factory spec.

Swapped the igniter with a known good one and still nothing. Now when I checked for spark I remembered getting shocked. But couldn't see any signs for spark.

Checked the dizzy rotor when the motor was set at TDC and the rotor was pointing at firing order 1. I really don't know what the hells going on. The ground is in for the injectors. But I am a bit worried with the injector plugs. I forgot which order they went and I may have switched up a plug, but would that really keep the car from starting?

The ecu we are using is the stock auto ecu. I wired up the stock auto harness to fire without the clutch. All I get is crazy turn over. Its turning over like crazy with mad compression yet won't fire. What could be the issue?

I really need this car running. I really don't want to redo the timing. How can the timing be off? The crank I set at TDC and the rotor was right on firing order 1. Now I haven't checked the cam to see if it was at TDC, but I just assumed since the rotor on the dizzy was pointing in the correct direction the cam is too.

I have worked on the car for 3 days in a row 10 hours a day and I am tired. Since the day she brought it home to now I have all this and now it won't fire. Someone help me diagnose this POS car. I knew my dad should have waited a little for a slightly more expensive car and have me look at it before he bought it.


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!
 
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post Apr 1, 2009 - 9:32 PM
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Sh!!!T IIRC she had it in park before we dissasembled everything. The plugs are uber wet and smell like fuel. I really think its the cam getting air in there. I swore I had spark from wire in the first cylinder and today no spark there.


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98 Celica gt red- totaled deer
94 Celica st black DD (bad weather beater)- totaled deer
95 Celica gt silver- chassis sold
88 Celica All-Trac (Burned to a crisp)
94 Celica gt white (sold)

In need of a rust free chassis!!!!

Posts in this topic
- bccentaur3   Issues with my sisters car and I am stumped.   Mar 31, 2009 - 12:46 PM
- - bccentaur3   BUMP!! I need some insight asap.   Mar 31, 2009 - 2:10 PM
- - bccentaur3   could it be the grounds? IIRC one of the grounds t...   Mar 31, 2009 - 2:43 PM
- - jimmykay   I don't know if this is possible, but are the ...   Mar 31, 2009 - 3:13 PM
- - trdproven   Are you sure you are getting spark? Is the ECU in...   Mar 31, 2009 - 4:44 PM
- - Batman722   how did you wire it to start without the clutch (c...   Mar 31, 2009 - 4:55 PM
- - bccentaur3   I joined the 2 wires at the transmission plug. So...   Mar 31, 2009 - 6:44 PM
- - Bitter   are you getting injector pulse? is spark firing at...   Mar 31, 2009 - 8:02 PM
- - bccentaur3   I just checked my wires. 3 and 4 was mixed up. Sil...   Mar 31, 2009 - 9:52 PM
- - Ryouxrs   glad to hear u might have it figured out, and yes ...   Mar 31, 2009 - 10:24 PM
- - jimmykay   good luck, I hope it starts today for you   Apr 1, 2009 - 8:08 AM
- - bccentaur3   so put some gas in it and now nothing. I know I...   Apr 1, 2009 - 6:57 PM
- - rjbibeau   did you forget the notorious ground on the back of...   Apr 1, 2009 - 8:00 PM
- - bccentaur3   Sh!!!T IIRC she had it in park before ...   Apr 1, 2009 - 9:32 PM
- - Bitter   clear the flood (dry plugs and crank with plugs ou...   Apr 1, 2009 - 10:22 PM
- - bccentaur3   OkaY I will do that first thing in the morning. I ...   Apr 1, 2009 - 10:42 PM
- - njccmd2002   im a noob in this, but what will park have to do....   Apr 1, 2009 - 10:53 PM
- - bccentaur3   Yeah I heard that too. I thought it didn't m...   Apr 1, 2009 - 11:15 PM
- - Ryouxrs   it doesnt matter when your doing a timing belt tha...   Apr 2, 2009 - 2:36 AM
- - bccentaur3   ^ i know that... I made sure the cam was at TDC an...   Apr 2, 2009 - 12:25 PM
|- - Ryouxrs   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Apr 2, 2009 - 12...   Apr 2, 2009 - 2:05 PM
|- - kaboom16   QUOTE (bccentaur3 @ Apr 2, 2009 - 1...   Apr 12, 2009 - 6:22 PM
- - bccentaur3   Well I'm going to the breaker yard to pick up ...   Apr 2, 2009 - 2:31 PM
- - DavezXTC   you'd be surprised on the timing thing, it rea...   Apr 5, 2009 - 2:46 AM
- - johnnypopper420   as far as your transmission goes, if you have an a...   Apr 8, 2009 - 6:41 PM


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