3SGE Beams VS 4AGE Blacktop 6SPD Options

[JoKeRkId613]

I will be getting a redtop Beams 3SGE in my Celica around mid-May. But I'm curious as to which engine really is better. I mean, if the ST205 was the exact same engine except no turbo, how much HP would it put out approximately, compared to the already NA Beams. I think Beams puts out 200HP(please correct me, if wrong...)? Thanks. I guess maybe what I'm trying to figrue out is if you stuck some low-comp pistons in the Beams and some other minor mods and the same CT26 or CT20 turbo, would it have more horses and be more powerful than the factory ST205?

Also, I'm real stuck between the Beams and 4AGE blacktop 6 speed. What would you guys choose? and why? Price isn't an issue and both engines will be left stock, maybe minor mods(Intake, Headers, Exhaust)...

Some advantages I see with the blacktop is that since my car is a coupe, I already have a tiny bit of weight advantage over a hatchback and the blacktop being a 1.6L will keep me at lower weight and it has 6speeds.

[azian_advanced]

you don't need 100 octane or whatever japan offers... just use premium 91 and up. the higher the better for high compression engines to prevent detonation. the lower ron rating will be compensated by the ecu by making the necessary adjustments to make it run properly.

[DEATH]

you don't need 100 octane or whatever japan offers... just use premium 91 and up. the higher the better for high compression engines to prevent detonation. the lower ron rating will be compensated by the ecu by making the necessary adjustments to make it run properly.

What he's refering to here is we use a different method to calculate octane here in the US so where they may have 100-104 overseas that would be equal to a lower rating here in the states. Meaning our 93 octane is not equal to their 93 - it would actually be higher octane. Not sure what the specific conversion factors are - I'm sur eyou can google it online.
Long story short - Our 93 octane is perfectly fine for both of these motors and also the 3S-GTE engines which also require higher octane fuel. I use 93 in my 3S-GTE with every single tank.
Hope this helps