3SGE Beams VS 4AGE Blacktop 6SPD Options

[JoKeRkId613]

I will be getting a redtop Beams 3SGE in my Celica around mid-May. But I'm curious as to which engine really is better. I mean, if the ST205 was the exact same engine except no turbo, how much HP would it put out approximately, compared to the already NA Beams. I think Beams puts out 200HP(please correct me, if wrong...)? Thanks. I guess maybe what I'm trying to figrue out is if you stuck some low-comp pistons in the Beams and some other minor mods and the same CT26 or CT20 turbo, would it have more horses and be more powerful than the factory ST205?

Also, I'm real stuck between the Beams and 4AGE blacktop 6 speed. What would you guys choose? and why? Price isn't an issue and both engines will be left stock, maybe minor mods(Intake, Headers, Exhaust)...

Some advantages I see with the blacktop is that since my car is a coupe, I already have a tiny bit of weight advantage over a hatchback and the blacktop being a 1.6L will keep me at lower weight and it has 6speeds.

[BonzaiCelica]

hmm i believe i understand how it works. looked it up on google like u said and found this http://www.answers.com/topic/octane-rating-1

quote from link: 87 octane fuel, the "regular" gasoline in the US and Canada, is 91–92 in Europe. However most European pumps deliver 95 (RON) as "unleaded", equivalent to 90–91 US (R+M)/2, and some even deliver 98 (RON), 100 (RON), or 102 (RON).

so if i were to go to fontona raceway. i heard that they have racing fuel up to 130. that will obviously work better on the blacktop n beams right. or is it not really necessary. and death, ur saying you guys have 93 octane over there when CA has 91 t highest. emissions have anything to do with it.

also thinking about honda's vtec usdm engine's vs the jdm engines. for instance the b18c engine from 94-96 gsr integra has 180hp in japan of 10.6 compression and 170hp of 10.1 compression in us with .
in japan they use 104 and here the most we can use is 91. same thing right.

This post has been edited by BonzaiCelica: Apr 9, 2009 - 3:32 PM

[DEATH]

death, ur saying you guys have 93 octane over there when CA has 91 t highest. emissions have anything to do with it.

Not sure - Cali's just gay - they can't even mod their sh*t over there

also thinking about honda's vtec usdm engine's vs the jdm engines. for instance the b18c engine from 94-96 gsr integra has 180hp in japan of 10.6 compression and 170hp of 10.1 compression in us with .
in japan they use 104 and here the most we can use is 91. same thing right.

Same here as on my RC ECU - more agressive tune to take advantage of the higher octane fuel.
If I take my car to the track here and get US 104octane race fuel it'll wake up even more


This post has been edited by DEATH: Apr 10, 2009 - 10:36 PM