2 Stage 3SGTE Swap thread, Stage 1.. almost done =) Options

[SlvrCelica09]

EDIT: 8/22/09
Ok guys before commenting just know my goal is 330 hp until all 2 stages is complete.. so keep that in mind when reading my setup:

95 toyota celica GT
ST205 3sgte swap
GT tranny and axles
Stage 3 clutch kit and flywheel(deciding between 2 I like)
EDIT: ST205 fuel pump
3 inch exhaust(already installed)
ST205 downpipe

Now in order to move on to stage 3 I need to figure out which engine I want.. parts for the 185(non RC) I have found to be relatively easy in case something breaks.. alot of sites have parts for the engine.. but it turns out the 185 wiring is harder than the 205.. im leaning towards the 205.. although i think finding parts for the engine is harder.. the swap should be a bit easier and at stock I would be right at my goal which is 250 hp running stock... i know for a fact there wont be an urge to raise booast levels since stage 2(AWD Conversion) of my swap would not be completed.. and this is my only car which i use for work and not for racing intentions.. 4 now.. lol

so basically I got 2 questions that have been killing me for a while now..
axles.. is it possible to mix and match GT tranny with 3sge axles.. if so that would be a delight but I highly doubt you can.. but im asking for clarification.. and 2.. what engine do you guys think I should go with.. 185 or 205?

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 26, 2009 - 6:32 PM

[lagos]

If you can afford it, get a 3rd gen. If money is tight, get a 2nd gen.

the GEN2 maxes out at about 240whp, and requires between 3-5000$ to get above 275whp.

How do you figure it takes 3-5000 to go aboove 275hp? Id argue that it can be done in well under a grand.

btw, the 3sge uses the same s53/54 tranny as our celica GT. There is no difference between their axles or trans with our gt setup. If you want some nice and beeffy looking axles, I recommend going to carquest and getting the new axles Cardone makes.

[_Jim_]

the GEN2 maxes out at about 240whp, and requires between 3-5000$ to get above 275whp.

How do you figure it takes 3-5000 to go aboove 275hp? Id argue that it can be done in well under a grand.

I am not talking making 300whp relying on meth and SAFC tuning. To me the extra 25-30whp that offers you just inst worth the risk of your Water injection failing, and toasting your motor.

I am basically talking race proven results for the GEN2. Whether you go ATS Tuned Rom Combo (there TD06 kit sells for 3100), or Full EMS, fuel, and turbo kit..... 1500-2000 for an EMS, 2000-3000 for a turbo kit, 400 for injectos, and 500 for a tune.

If by making over 275whp on the GEN2 for under 1000 you mean buying a CT20B, adjustable FPR, bumping base pressure, throwing on an SAFC, etc.....You STILL WOULDNT be making the power that the GEN3 makes stock......so the small savings in going GEN2, and then spending the extra 1000$.....all just to do LESS than what the GEN3 does stock negligible.

Basically, anyway you look at it, the GEN3 will ALWAYS make 80+ MORE whp then the GEN2 when still all on the stock ECU.