2 Stage 3SGTE Swap thread, Stage 1.. almost done =) Options

[SlvrCelica09]

EDIT: 8/22/09
Ok guys before commenting just know my goal is 330 hp until all 2 stages is complete.. so keep that in mind when reading my setup:

95 toyota celica GT
ST205 3sgte swap
GT tranny and axles
Stage 3 clutch kit and flywheel(deciding between 2 I like)
EDIT: ST205 fuel pump
3 inch exhaust(already installed)
ST205 downpipe

Now in order to move on to stage 3 I need to figure out which engine I want.. parts for the 185(non RC) I have found to be relatively easy in case something breaks.. alot of sites have parts for the engine.. but it turns out the 185 wiring is harder than the 205.. im leaning towards the 205.. although i think finding parts for the engine is harder.. the swap should be a bit easier and at stock I would be right at my goal which is 250 hp running stock... i know for a fact there wont be an urge to raise booast levels since stage 2(AWD Conversion) of my swap would not be completed.. and this is my only car which i use for work and not for racing intentions.. 4 now.. lol

so basically I got 2 questions that have been killing me for a while now..
axles.. is it possible to mix and match GT tranny with 3sge axles.. if so that would be a delight but I highly doubt you can.. but im asking for clarification.. and 2.. what engine do you guys think I should go with.. 185 or 205?

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Sep 26, 2009 - 6:32 PM

[95st-celica]

why do you need to mix and match axles? buy 2 brand new axles for a GT and call it a day...they will last you for quite some time...no need to worry...between the gen 2 and gen 3...thats up to you...i think i MIGHT have gone with a 3rd gen...but at the time i had my mind set on a st185 clip that i got from hong kong. now yes the 3rd gen has more horsepower stock for stock...but once your reach a little over 300HP the playing feild is about the same...then gen 2 can be made to handle just as much power as a gen 3...its just little improvments that were done to the 3rd gen to get out an extra 35-40 horsepower....as for wireing....its all a nightmare...doesnt matter which way you look at it...205, 185, whatever...my advice would be send it out and have someone do it professionally..cough cough Tweak cough cough...i got lucky and had Mr. mad scientist himself do mine...heres a couple things you should read up on espically before you jump into a swap.

http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

all your answers will be in either one of them ^

[SlvrCelica09]

why do you need to mix and match axles? buy 2 brand new axles for a GT and call it a day...they will last you for quite some time...no need to worry...between the gen 2 and gen 3...thats up to you...i think i MIGHT have gone with a 3rd gen...but at the time i had my mind set on a st185 clip that i got from hong kong. now yes the 3rd gen has more horsepower stock for stock...but once your reach a little over 300HP the playing feild is about the same...then gen 2 can be made to handle just as much power as a gen 3...its just little improvments that were done to the 3rd gen to get out an extra 35-40 horsepower....as for wireing....its all a nightmare...doesnt matter which way you look at it...205, 185, whatever...my advice would be send it out and have someone do it professionally..cough cough Tweak cough cough...i got lucky and had Mr. mad scientist himself do mine...heres a couple things you should read up on espically before you jump into a swap.

http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

all your answers will be in either one of them ^

i dont think u understood what i meant.. i didnt say mix and match axles.. i meant mix and match the Gt tranny with 3sge axles.. but im going go with GT tranny and axles.. and im def not "jumping into a swap" this has been planned since 2006 bro.. ive read jeff's 3sgte swap how to a zillion times lol.. ill see what the plan will be for the wiring when the time comes.. got some ppl in my area that have swapped jdm engines into celicas b4.. or i may just do it myself

This post has been edited by SlvrCelica09: Apr 13, 2009 - 10:32 PM

[95st-celica]

why do you need to mix and match axles? buy 2 brand new axles for a GT and call it a day...they will last you for quite some time...no need to worry...between the gen 2 and gen 3...thats up to you...i think i MIGHT have gone with a 3rd gen...but at the time i had my mind set on a st185 clip that i got from hong kong. now yes the 3rd gen has more horsepower stock for stock...but once your reach a little over 300HP the playing feild is about the same...then gen 2 can be made to handle just as much power as a gen 3...its just little improvments that were done to the 3rd gen to get out an extra 35-40 horsepower....as for wireing....its all a nightmare...doesnt matter which way you look at it...205, 185, whatever...my advice would be send it out and have someone do it professionally..cough cough Tweak cough cough...i got lucky and had Mr. mad scientist himself do mine...heres a couple things you should read up on espically before you jump into a swap.

http://www.mrcontrols.com/primers/power.htm

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=28825

all your answers will be in either one of them ^

i dont think u understood what i meant.. i didnt say mix and match axles.. i meant mix and match the Gt tranny with 3sge axles.. but im going go with GT tranny and axles.. and im def not "jumping into a swap" this has been planned since 2006 bro.. ive read jeff's 3sgte swap how to a zillion times lol.. ill see what the plan will be for the wiring when the time comes.. got some ppl in my area that have swapped jdm engines into celicas b4.. or i may just do it myself

i could have sworn you said 3sge and stock gt axles...unless you edited it out...either way it doesnt matter...your GT axles will hold over 250hp..for quite some time..go to carquest to get your axles...they are a little beefier then the stock ones and are of nice quality...as for the links i posted...it looks like you joined recently so i wasnt sure if you were a noob or not, talking about how you wanna go stage 3 with your motor and slapping on a huge turbo....as long as you research you'll be fine...and as for the wireing harness...have you done a harness before? just out of curiosity? if not it is very difficult, reading diagrams, and getting everything right...good luck either way, im not trying to put you down..just giving you advice i though you might appreciate

[Celicia]

This post has been edited by Celicia: Apr 14, 2009 - 12:01 AM