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post Apr 28, 2009 - 8:54 PM
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Hi all, Two days ago the check engine light came on. When I drive for 5 min the light comes on. frown.gif

I have a 3sgte out of a Caldina (ST215) and the use the stock JDM ECU, so I can't get codes from it. I don't see anything leaking and the car runs great. I have put about 800 miles on the car

since i did the swap.

What should I check first?
 
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post Apr 30, 2009 - 8:05 AM
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Thanks for the info alltracman78. I was sure that all 97+ engine (no matter what market they come from) were OBDII. The best person to answer this question is Dr Tweak : Hey Tweak, did you ever seen a diag box in any of the harness you did from a ST215 ?

I had 2 ST215 harness and none of them had a diag box somewhere in the engine room wiring harness. So, I assumed that if it isn't in the engine bay, it would be in the cabin.

The best thing to do should be to go at an engine importer, look at a caldina ST215 front clip, and inspect it to find a diag box.
post Apr 30, 2009 - 1:18 PM
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Well, I stand partially corrected. I've been talking with Tweak about this via PM; apparently the check connector is under the drivers dash, and is the same shape as an OBDII connector.

However, it's not a true OBDII system, and according to him a OBDII scan tool can't communicate with it.

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Thanks for the info alltracman78. I was sure that all 97+ engine (no matter what market they come from) were OBDII.


To further clarify what I posted above; OBDII isn't just a different connector that everyone uses, it's a set of Federal regulations that standardize how the ECU communicates, the code numbers and their meanings, and what emissions the ECU checks for. That's a really simplified explanation, there's more to it, but I don't feel like typing too much of a book here...

Each country has it's own emissions regulations, so designing a system that complies with both would cost more money, and probably increase complications, so it's unlikely a manufacturer would design both in, unless another country fully adopted our emissions standards [like I believe Canada did].

Also, while OBDII requires certain things to be the same for all manufacturers, it also leaves other parts of the diagnostic system for the individual manufacturers to decide what is what.

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- speed-CCNP   3S-GTE Gen 4 Check engine light problem   Apr 28, 2009 - 8:54 PM
- - alltracman78   You have to check the codes, otherwise you're ...   Apr 29, 2009 - 7:46 AM
- - malpaso   check air sensor (measuring amount of intake air)....   Apr 29, 2009 - 7:55 AM
|- - speed-CCNP   The air sensor can go bad? QUOTE (malpaso @ ...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:38 PM
- - pitcelica   did you bought a complete engine or a front clip f...   Apr 29, 2009 - 9:27 AM
|- - speed-CCNP   I buy a clip. I didn't install OBDII connecto...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:29 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   I still have the clip. Is there something I need ...   May 1, 2009 - 7:23 AM
- - alltracman78   OBDII is a US thing. Other than us and maybe Canad...   Apr 29, 2009 - 3:02 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   Did we do your wiring harness? -Doc   Apr 29, 2009 - 3:26 PM
- - pitcelica   Thanks for the info alltracman78. I was sure that ...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:05 AM
|- - alltracman78   Well, I stand partially corrected. I've been t...   Apr 30, 2009 - 1:18 PM
- - Dr_Tweak   There's no Diag box on the ST215 harnesses, th...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:40 AM
|- - speed-CCNP   Doc, you did an excellent job on my harness. Reme...   May 1, 2009 - 7:17 AM
|- - Dr_Tweak   QUOTE (speed-CCNP @ May 1, 2009 - 8...   May 1, 2009 - 3:14 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   Cool, I'll give you a call QUOTE (Dr_Twea...   May 3, 2009 - 9:02 PM
- - lagos   sounds like a perfect candidate for my diagnostic ...   Apr 30, 2009 - 2:56 PM
- - lagos   its in the stickies.. http://www.6gc.net/forums/in...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:45 PM
|- - speed-CCNP   Will this work on a gen 4? QUOTE (lagos @ A...   Apr 30, 2009 - 8:52 PM
- - pitcelica   could you plz, post some pics of the diagnosis box...   May 1, 2009 - 11:04 AM


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